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Old 9th Aug 2014, 10:33
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Everyone out there, please don't keep suggesting that AA should be government funded. WE DON'T WANT IT!!!

Why???? In my local area, to save money, they have binned one police helicopter and are talking about binning another. Both in one of the busiest areas of the country. The Air Ambulance has ADDED one aircraft during this time taking us up to 3. If we had been government funded, they would have studied response times, massaged the figures and.......... reduced us to one aircraft.
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 10:52
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Point taken jayteeto, BUT the Air Ambulances should NOT pay tax on the fuel they use.
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The NHS budget benefits hugely from AA, not least because more patients make it to treatment inside the "golden hour". This should be recognised in any way possible - yacht clubs using RIBs as safety boats get VAT back on the fuel used for this purpose, why not AAs on their fuel? The RYA could provide chapter and verse.

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I regret to have to say that I do not agree that Prince William should operate as an air ambulance pilot.
1. Can we be assured that he will have the same amount of 'stick time' as the other pilots?
2. A Beeb report says that he will be accompanied by a security officer. In a small helicopter? Ridiculous!
3. How much disruption will his presence cause to the operation? I feel sorry for the unit manager.
4. Let's be clear that this is a PR exercise for the enhancement of the public image of HRH.

Sorry, Sir, you are not helping.
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 15:09
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1. During his time at RAF Valley, The Duke undertook a total of 156 search and rescue operations, resulting in 149 people being rescued. Since joining the Royal Air Force, The Duke completed over 1,300 flying hours. That does it for me.
2. Yes, the Beeb's report is completely ridiculous. I hope you have more sense than to believe it.
3. Almost certainly none. Why should it? And the free publicity the AA is gaining is priceless.
4. Ah, now I see where you are coming from! The dreaded palace PR machine that dictates everything the royals do or say! It's a conspiracy!
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 16:36
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Yep, what Gen just said.
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 17:12
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Gentlemen, thank you for your courteous replies. I'd half expected some 'frothing at the mouth' responses.
I am not at all anti Royal Family; just have misgivings about recency.
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 17:20
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Quite a good article to balance the argument, considering that I usually don't like this newspaper...

PLATELL'S PEOPLE: Time this reluctant royal heir grew up | Mail Online
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 18:26
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THe trouble with Amanda Platell's comments is that her column regularly consists solely of vitriol aimed at anybody and everybody, although I am not a regular reader I have never seen her say anything even remotely nice about anybody. Poor WIlliam is dammed if he sticks solely to Royal duties, he'll be called 'sponger', 'parasite' etc, however if he get's a proper job, which he has done, he ends up being accused of shirking his duties, poor (not financially obviously) bloke just can't win, at least he is not actually taking a salary, what more do people want him to do?
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PLATELL'S PEOPLE: Time this reluctant royal heir grew up | Mail Online
And what exactly does Amanda Platell give back to the country...
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 19:23
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Fantom, I hope it will do more to highlight the fact that the Air Ambulance is a charity.

I wonder what percentage of the Defence budget cutbacks it would take to run a National Air Ambulance Service.

Showing that kind of figure might be enough to make a case for saying that; with the MOD losing X capability to refund the Treasury Y Millions, perhaps they could only give back Z Millions to Treasury. that would allow them to give the tax paying public a better chance of survival.
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 19:23
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And what exactly does Amanda Platell give back to the country
...which one? She's Australian I believe.
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 19:43
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She is an Aussie.

And I just looked up here Bio, apart from back packing around the world and working for a few Tory pollies, she has been a journo, mostly freelance.
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 20:08
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relative size of Defence vote

I was at a briefing a while back where the (now published) budget of one of the security services was described as ' a rounding error of the MoD's budget'!
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 21:43
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Stupid comments to make - suggest she stops whining and gets a real job - well journalism, at least her sort, is IMHO not a "real" job, it is just rehashing what she has seen or heard elsewhere
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 22:14
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If he wanted to continue to fly....why did he leave the RAF?
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 22:16
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Poor WIlliam is dammed if he sticks solely to Royal duties, he'll be called 'sponger', 'parasite' etc, however if he get's a proper job, which he has done, he ends up being accused of shirking his duties
Damned if you do etc. Pretty much the lot of most in public office, elected or born. At least those elected can walk away - hmm, come to think of it, Edward the 8th
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 22:19
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If he wanted to continue to fly....why did he leave the RAF?
You could ask that of innumerable pilots in civil aviation. And before you say "money" (which doesn't apply in HRH's case), there are loads earning less in civil flying than they could be making had they stayed in the service.
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 22:33
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Previously I might have mentioned the Jim'll Fix It lifestyle that the Royals enjoy, where they can pick and choose what profession they want to be today regardless of their qualifications, but that now has somewhat different connotations...
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Old 10th Aug 2014, 10:20
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Basil, why are you concerned about recency? He will have to do his ATPL and a type rating, and then he will have to comply with the same regs as everyone else. It's not an issue.

Or did you mean regency, which is something else entirely?
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