Flying losses; training vs combat
Only 10% of these deaths were attributable to combat/airworthiness. The other 90% was loosely termed 'aircrew error'.
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From what remains of my memory, l believe the RAF received 200 Jaguar bombers in the mid 70s, and by the time l left late 80s, 50 of these had been lost in accidents.
Including 1 shot down in error by a RAF phantom with a dicky arming switch, all for the sake of a bit of "Dymo Tape".
Including 1 shot down in error by a RAF phantom with a dicky arming switch, all for the sake of a bit of "Dymo Tape".
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The RAAF bought 115 Mirage III's. 39 crashed (hull loss).
22 ejections,
20 pilots injured.
14 pilots killed.
I think training accidents have decreased rapidly for multiple factors over the last 30 years. Systems have improved. They weren't flown by triple redundant fly-by-wire computers in those days, and 'risk management' was simply a calculation on the chance of dying.
22 ejections,
20 pilots injured.
14 pilots killed.
I think training accidents have decreased rapidly for multiple factors over the last 30 years. Systems have improved. They weren't flown by triple redundant fly-by-wire computers in those days, and 'risk management' was simply a calculation on the chance of dying.
ISTR 6 fatalities at Valley between Jan and Jun 66, some of which were glide landings (simulated engine failure) in "manual". A Flying Order was issued "Solo student who experience engine failure are to eject, Instructors are to use their discretion and then eject".
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The RAAF bought 115 Mirage III's. 39 crashed (hull loss).
22 ejections,
20 pilots injured.
14 pilots killed.
I think training accidents have decreased rapidly for multiple factors over the last 30 years. Systems have improved. They weren't flown by triple redundant fly-by-wire computers in those days, and 'risk management' was simply a calculation on the chance of dying.
22 ejections,
20 pilots injured.
14 pilots killed.
I think training accidents have decreased rapidly for multiple factors over the last 30 years. Systems have improved. They weren't flown by triple redundant fly-by-wire computers in those days, and 'risk management' was simply a calculation on the chance of dying.
Wasn't different at all on the other side of the fence, by the way. East Germany lost almost 50% of their MiG-19 and 24% of their MiG-21, while flying far fewer hours than Western air forces. AFAIR, the numbers for other WP air forces were similar or even worse.
At least for European air forces, in addition to the reasons you mentioned, a lot of losses were caused by adverse conditions - low-level flight in bad weather and/or at night, with rather primitive navigation aids from today's perspective.
