RNHF Sea Fury wheels up at Culdrose
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As a bit of a plane spotter geek, I took a look at the Sea Fury pilots notes and the emergency procedure for the undercarriage looks horribly complicated and not exactly what you want to be faffing with while maintaining 130kts and judging your approach.
Looking at the RPM control lever, it has an auto setting with a manual over-ride for high rpm. It doesn't mention any actions to do with the rpm with an engine failure, so I would imagine the prop goes high rpm with no options to manually select low to extend the glide. Any ideas? Now that we are allowed to play with the wobbly props on Tutors during a PFL, it does make a difference. Surely it would also make a huge difference to the glide of a big piston too?
Looking at the RPM control lever, it has an auto setting with a manual over-ride for high rpm. It doesn't mention any actions to do with the rpm with an engine failure, so I would imagine the prop goes high rpm with no options to manually select low to extend the glide. Any ideas? Now that we are allowed to play with the wobbly props on Tutors during a PFL, it does make a difference. Surely it would also make a huge difference to the glide of a big piston too?
Speaking of Winkle:
Originally Posted by RN website 4 Aug 2014
The Fleet Air Arm's most decorated Pilot delivered a lecture on Highlights of a life in Aviation at the Fleet Air Arm (FAA) Museum at Royal Naval Air Station (RNAS) Yeovilton.
Captain Eric Melrose ‘Winkle’ Brown CBE, DSC, AFC, KCVSA, PhD Hon FRAeS, RN at the age of 94 is a former test pilot who has flown in 487 different types of aircraft, more than anyone else in history and a record unlikely ever to be broken! Winkle Browns second world record is for the most aircraft carrier landings performed, 2407 in total!
On the night of 29 July over 400 people gathered beneath the Wings of Concord in the Museum to listen to who can only be described as a living legend in the world of aviation. Silence fell as Winkle Brown took to the podium next to a commissioned portrait of himself on loan to be hanged at RNAS Yeovilton...
Captain Eric Melrose ‘Winkle’ Brown CBE, DSC, AFC, KCVSA, PhD Hon FRAeS, RN at the age of 94 is a former test pilot who has flown in 487 different types of aircraft, more than anyone else in history and a record unlikely ever to be broken! Winkle Browns second world record is for the most aircraft carrier landings performed, 2407 in total!
On the night of 29 July over 400 people gathered beneath the Wings of Concord in the Museum to listen to who can only be described as a living legend in the world of aviation. Silence fell as Winkle Brown took to the podium next to a commissioned portrait of himself on loan to be hanged at RNAS Yeovilton...
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My thoughts too W00. Would RNHF ac be covered by hull insurance as the ac are all on the G register? (I appreciate that the Crown/MoD self-insure mil ac but am curious to know what the situation is here.)
Just glad that CG is not hurt and no spectators were injured.
MB
Just glad that CG is not hurt and no spectators were injured.
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In answer to W00
''An investigation is currently underway to establish the cause of the incident and the Trust is working closely with the Royal Navy and military investigators to piece together what happened and get her repaired and flying again as soon as possible.
An early assessment of the damage by the specialists at Weald Aviation who maintain the Sea Fury T20 is that she is eminently repairable. “We have the specialists and the spares to rebuild her and get her back in the air again as soon as possible” said Tim Manna. “The offers of help from Fly Navy Heritage Ambassadors and Supporters have been incredible. A beautiful historic aircraft like the Sea Fury needs to be flying - and as soon as the investigation is complete we will be devoting all resources to repairing and restoring her to full serviceability again.”
''An investigation is currently underway to establish the cause of the incident and the Trust is working closely with the Royal Navy and military investigators to piece together what happened and get her repaired and flying again as soon as possible.
An early assessment of the damage by the specialists at Weald Aviation who maintain the Sea Fury T20 is that she is eminently repairable. “We have the specialists and the spares to rebuild her and get her back in the air again as soon as possible” said Tim Manna. “The offers of help from Fly Navy Heritage Ambassadors and Supporters have been incredible. A beautiful historic aircraft like the Sea Fury needs to be flying - and as soon as the investigation is complete we will be devoting all resources to repairing and restoring her to full serviceability again.”
Passed my house this morning, on its way to somewhere in Essex, where Weald Aviation live, apparently. Be an eyecatcher on the M5, M4 and M25 throughout the day, I should think!
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Put it in a museum.
For future generations to enjoy. The RN are relatively pants at looking after these aircraft for flying purposes compared to the RAF. And there are reasons why that is so.
Just call it a day.
Just call it a day.
HS,
That's just a little harsh. The RNHF do not appear to have the same financial muscle as the BBMF, but are by no means alone in having incidents/accidents with Historic aircraft. BBMF effectively burnt out a Hurri at Wittering, TFC have had some misfortune over the years and the poor old Blenheim has been crashed twice...
The Firefly crash was tragic, and the report sad to read, but those lessons have been learnt. The Centaurus and Pegasus are rare beasts compared to Merlins and Griffons, with knowledge and spares in short supply. To argue that the T.20 should be in a museum is a little unkind; it has no real historical value as such, and the FAAM already has a FB11 in the collection. Ergo, for as long as possible, I think it's important that this aircraft is seen and heard in its natural environment and act as a valuable aid to converting the next generation of historic pilots to high performance tail-draggers.
That's just a little harsh. The RNHF do not appear to have the same financial muscle as the BBMF, but are by no means alone in having incidents/accidents with Historic aircraft. BBMF effectively burnt out a Hurri at Wittering, TFC have had some misfortune over the years and the poor old Blenheim has been crashed twice...
The Firefly crash was tragic, and the report sad to read, but those lessons have been learnt. The Centaurus and Pegasus are rare beasts compared to Merlins and Griffons, with knowledge and spares in short supply. To argue that the T.20 should be in a museum is a little unkind; it has no real historical value as such, and the FAAM already has a FB11 in the collection. Ergo, for as long as possible, I think it's important that this aircraft is seen and heard in its natural environment and act as a valuable aid to converting the next generation of historic pilots to high performance tail-draggers.
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The first Blenheim that crashed was not rebuilt to fly, it lingers at Duxford somewhere. The second one has been rebuilt after its landing accident.
It was due to fly earlier this month but hasn't yet.
And it now has a Blenheim Mk1 nose instead of the MkIV nose
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The first Blenheim that crashed was not rebuilt to fly, it lingers at Duxford somewhere. The second one has been rebuilt after its landing accident.
It was due to fly earlier this month but hasn't yet.
And it now has a Blenheim Mk1 nose instead of the MkIV nose
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VOne apologies for the generalisation; I was at Dux when the first one came back on the lowloader and flew a formation sortie with the second. My point was that operating vintage aircraft is not without risk - regardless of the professionalism of the air and ground crew. Same could be said about certain front line aircraft at times over the past couple of decades....
BTW, I look forward to seeing the Mk1 in the air - soon I hear/hope?
BTW, I look forward to seeing the Mk1 in the air - soon I hear/hope?
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The episode of the BBC documentary series Close Calls on Camera featuring the emergency landing of the Sea Fury at RNAS Culdrose on 31 July will be transmitted on BBC One on Wednesday 29 October 2014 at 1145.
BBMF = Public funding
RNHF = RN + Trust funding
Army HAF = AAC/self funded
Shuffle......off and show some respect fort those that put a lot of time and effort to keep historic aircraft flying for the public to enjoy, your comments are plain rude.
RNHF = RN + Trust funding
Army HAF = AAC/self funded
Shuffle......off and show some respect fort those that put a lot of time and effort to keep historic aircraft flying for the public to enjoy, your comments are plain rude.
Just to put the record straight...
BBMF are not fully funded by public monies. I, and many others, used to give time for FREE when Not Required for Duty (NRD). Also, we had a bit of sponsorship from various companies who would get their names on the back of the brochure. It is nothing like the Reds in public funding terms.
I do hope that Hangarshuffle was joshing - I have a lot of respect for the RNHF.
LJ
BBMF are not fully funded by public monies. I, and many others, used to give time for FREE when Not Required for Duty (NRD). Also, we had a bit of sponsorship from various companies who would get their names on the back of the brochure. It is nothing like the Reds in public funding terms.
I do hope that Hangarshuffle was joshing - I have a lot of respect for the RNHF.
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Leon,
AFAIK the BBMF is funded in the same was as HMS VICTORY and the National Army Museum. Each Service is permitted to fund one unit from public monies.
I am not sure your time was "free". Service personnel are funded 24hrs per day 7 days a week; Not Required for Duty is a bit different to not being paid. This is not to take away from the fact that you volunteered your time on a very worthwhile cause.
RNHF gets/got a small grant from the RN of about £240K pa, but this may have stopped. The CO of the unit is also now a serving aircrew officer.
AFAIK the BBMF is funded in the same was as HMS VICTORY and the National Army Museum. Each Service is permitted to fund one unit from public monies.
I am not sure your time was "free". Service personnel are funded 24hrs per day 7 days a week; Not Required for Duty is a bit different to not being paid. This is not to take away from the fact that you volunteered your time on a very worthwhile cause.
RNHF gets/got a small grant from the RN of about £240K pa, but this may have stopped. The CO of the unit is also now a serving aircrew officer.