Gerry Adams arrested over IRA murder
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They were merciless with the population, but there was no honour. It was pure gangster, weakness was exploited and no mercy was shown. Backstabbing to the end
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jayteeto ... there's an end?
This will go on long after I am dust/ashes.
This will go on long after I am dust/ashes.
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Originally Posted by Danny42C
It is ironic to hear McGuinness advancing the argument that: "the arrest of Gerry Adams is politically motivated".
Were not the murders so motivated ?
Were not the murders so motivated ?
i hope McGuiness (never there, not me, not a member) sleeps uneasily tonight.
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36% parabellum
Mil-26 Man -OK, I stand corrected, assuming the NYT figures are correct, (NYT somewhat famous for their partisan approach to NI).
If we add the civilian severely injured to the civilian dead I think that 36% will grow considerably. The IRA have nothing to be proud of.
Who is Gerry Admans and what has this got to do with Military Aviation?
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Seadrills, I started the thread so I feel I should answer, I amongst quite a few RAF servicemen on here served in NI during the " troubles" that is why I thought it was pertinent to post it here. As for your lack of knowledge as to who he is, one takes that as a sign of youth and suggest perhaps you should google him. For what it's worth things happened on both sides, and as such I believe the law should be applied to both sides, not just one.
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MPN11,
On this, I beg, with respect, to disagree, as I regard this as an almost universally held misconception.
Religion has been regarded as a major component in this whole hellish brew. But in fact it is actually being used as a "flag". An analogy would be: "All Nationalist Irish have brown eyes, all Unionists have blue". Ergo: "all blue eyes are good, all brown eyes bad" (or vice versa, depending on your political leanings (whereas eyes, per se, have nothing to do with it). On the same logic: "All Catholics are good, all Protestants bad" (the fact that most Nationalists are (nominally) Catholic, and most Unionists are (nominally) Protestant, may lend colour to the view, but does not invalidate the general argument).
At the heart of this is a political dispute with such deep roots in history and such an accompanying host of claims and counter-claims (all marinated in blood), that a Solomon would struggle to sort it out. In the end it is an insoluble conflict over land (similar to the Arab/Israeli dispute in many respects), and what the answer is I do not know.
But if you could take religion out of the equation, the problem would not be ipso facto solved. (Remember the long pre-Reformation history of European wars, when all the combatants were [nominally] of the same faith, and the situation in WWII, when German Catholics (or Lutherans) prayed earnestly to the same God for victory as did their British counterparts - leaving the Almighty in something of a quandary).
Now, I rest my case and bow out, conscious that we are violating that wise old rule that (for good reason) prohibits three subjects for discussion in an Officers' Mess (Religion and Politics being two of them !)
Danny.
On this, I beg, with respect, to disagree, as I regard this as an almost universally held misconception.
Religion has been regarded as a major component in this whole hellish brew. But in fact it is actually being used as a "flag". An analogy would be: "All Nationalist Irish have brown eyes, all Unionists have blue". Ergo: "all blue eyes are good, all brown eyes bad" (or vice versa, depending on your political leanings (whereas eyes, per se, have nothing to do with it). On the same logic: "All Catholics are good, all Protestants bad" (the fact that most Nationalists are (nominally) Catholic, and most Unionists are (nominally) Protestant, may lend colour to the view, but does not invalidate the general argument).
At the heart of this is a political dispute with such deep roots in history and such an accompanying host of claims and counter-claims (all marinated in blood), that a Solomon would struggle to sort it out. In the end it is an insoluble conflict over land (similar to the Arab/Israeli dispute in many respects), and what the answer is I do not know.
But if you could take religion out of the equation, the problem would not be ipso facto solved. (Remember the long pre-Reformation history of European wars, when all the combatants were [nominally] of the same faith, and the situation in WWII, when German Catholics (or Lutherans) prayed earnestly to the same God for victory as did their British counterparts - leaving the Almighty in something of a quandary).
Now, I rest my case and bow out, conscious that we are violating that wise old rule that (for good reason) prohibits three subjects for discussion in an Officers' Mess (Religion and Politics being two of them !)
Danny.
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Organic or none organic?
Missed opportunity
De Valera should have taken Northern Ireland when it was offered by Churchill during WW2 in return for the south abandoning neutrality!!So all the evidence against Gerry Adams is coming from Boston(USA),that's ironic!