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Old 12th Jun 2020, 19:39
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Possibly the same TLP course in ‘86. The aircraft subsequently known as ‘Black Mike’
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Possibly the same...

It would have been a different course, as the Germans were the only F-4 participants at this one.
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Originally Posted by Vzlet
It would have been a different course, as the Germans were the only F-4 participants at this one.
Ok, maybe my photo was taken on the earlier course. Certainly there was German F4 representation along with us as we enjoyed a visit to the Jever brewery with the Richthofen Sqn folks.
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Originally Posted by grobbling about
Ok, maybe my photo was taken on the earlier course. Certainly there was German F4 representation along with us as we enjoyed a visit to the Jever brewery with the Richthofen Sqn folks.
So the “TLP 2/86” on the intake ramp is not the date then?
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Originally Posted by salad-dodger
So the “TLP 2/86” on the intake ramp is not the date then?
The '2' is just the course number...

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And the 86?
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Originally Posted by salad-dodger
And the 86?
Post #680 ... 1986?
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Originally Posted by salad-dodger
And the 86?
The year in which it's held.

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Originally Posted by walbut
The tank sidewall had probably cracked as a result of fatigue induced by pressure variations in the tank, this had cut or chafed through the rubber bag tank and fuel had leaked in large quantities down into the engine bay. The vented cavity under the tank floors should have been sealed to prevent fuel leaking down this path but it looked like it had found a way through and been ignited by a hot surface on the engine or possibly use of reheat.
Subsequently a mod programme was introduced to fit a liner in the tank bays to protect the bag tanks in the event of cracks developing in the tank structure.

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Tank sidewall 'panting ' was quite common....spent many days doing repairs in all of them...

Then many more days gluing the liners in place too...

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TLP, 1986

I don't remember the number of the course (at which I was an observer for just a week), but the RAF sent Harriers and Lightnings, the USAF A-10s and F-15s, the Germans F-4s and Alpha Jets, and the Belgians Mirages.
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Originally Posted by Vzlet
I don't remember the number of the course (at which I was an observer for just a week), but the RAF sent Harriers and Lightnings, the USAF A-10s and F-15s, the Germans F-4s and Alpha Jets, and the Belgians Mirages.
Canadian F-18s (brand new and failed to get airborne quite a lot), South Dakota ANG A7s and GAF F4Fs. Must have been others as well
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RF-4C goes on display at Ramstein AB

Saw this story on the 'hall site.

https://www.mildenhall.af.mil/News/A...i-restoration/



Image courtesy of the US DoD and Airman 1st Class John Wright

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Did anybody ever phly a Phantom with the "winglets" up? Was it possible?
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Did anybody ever phly a Phantom with the "winglets" up? Was it possible?
The Phantom didn't have 'winglets', if you mean the outer wing panels, then yes, several F-4s have flown with the outer wing panels in the folded position and survived the episode, several have also been lost along with the crews... Probably the most widely publicised is a USAF 57th FIS F-4E, there are several images of it in flight online along with the full story.

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Ummm...that's why I called them "winglets" instead of winglets.
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At the risk of repetition.... thought this had already been posted on this thread but couldn’t find in going back 20 pages or so. Not my photo, uncredited image off the web.
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Originally Posted by Duchess_Driver


At the risk of repetition.... thought this had already been posted on this thread but couldn’t find in going back 20 pages or so. Not my photo, uncredited image off the web.
That's a pic of the 57th FIS F-4E that I mentioned above, here are a couple more images found on t'internet of the same 'incident'... (credit/copyright unknown but, obviously a fellow 57th FIS crew)


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More phantastic videos of JASDF Phantoms !




Happy childhood & early RAF service memories of the skies of Europe being filled with the sound of 1,296 J-79s in the 648 x F-4G / F-4E / F-4D / RF-4C in all these USAFE units - let alone the 1000s more in the German AF F-4s and every man and his dog's F-104s - how times change !

10 TRW RAF Alconbury (72)
48 TFW RAF Lakenheath (72)
81 TFW RAF Bentwaters / RAF Woodbridge (72)
36 TFW Bitburg AB (72)
50 TFW Hahn AB (72)
86 TFW Ramstein AB (48)
52 TFW Spangdahlem AB (72)
26 TRW Zweibrucken AB (48)
401 TFW Torrejon AB (72)
32 TFS Soesterberg AB (24)
57 FIS NAS Keflavik (24)




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Another video of JASDF 301 Sqn Phantoms.

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