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Global Aviation Magazine : 60 Years of the Hercules

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Old 8th Jan 2015, 07:24
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I do remember the incident. How come you had two SD hats ? 'Fess up you borrowed one for the visit to the 'staish'. Your route hat can be clearly seen in the crew card playing pic in Fiji.



Last of the Shorehem pics.
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Unhappy Shoreham

It's hardly a tac strip but crew can't be that confident. No 1 cuffed!
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Dougie,
obviously old habits die hard !
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Would that be the number one on the starboard side perhaps?
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do't forget Dougie nearly always travelled sideways so can be forgiven for the numbering confusion !
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AA62 a fair point, having seen Dougie "socially confused "on several occasions !
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Billy .. nice photos .. but definitely no 177 in that lot !! Some personal ones you might not wish all over t'internet however !!

PM sent as well ...
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Well played Billy

Great pic ...
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Engines

Shurely shome mishtake!
Good spot!
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Sorry about that not sure what has happened there, but they are not even my photos. Too weird will try again
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Experience has shown that's usually safer to alter reality than challenge an STS Staff Nav...

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Excellent job, I found out not to upset Dougie while sober in E C many years ago. Was one of the better bollockings I received in my time.
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Bit of a long shot really ... But does anyone have a copy of the original FRC's from when RAF Albert first entered service to share ? Did you use any humorous 'type' specific mnemonics ... Sad I know ... But I can still chant "My Friend Fred Has Hairy B@lls"

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There was no need to learn mnemonics for checks as all were done by challenge and response. The Nav read out the item (challenge) and the appropriate crew member replied with the appropriate words having completed the action. The only checks we needed to remember were the Immediate actions in the event of an engine fire - at first "Thandle pulled, Condition lever to feather, first shot fired and start the clock" all closely monitored by the engineer.

Indeed, so cautious were we of not acting in haste ( to repent at leisure) that the old joke was - what is the first action in the event of an emergency? - to which the answer once - Start the clock. That action was meant merely to slow everything down.

The "at first" above refers to the actions changing to condition lever first followed by Thandle. This was because the CL feathered the propeller mechanically and shut off the fuel quickly whilst oil was still lubricating everything whereas the Thandle as well as feathering shut off everything immediately. This was deemed to safer than ending up with an unfeathered prop still trying to rotate without lubrication.

PS I do have a copy of FRCs (at home) I think but I am in France for the next 3 weeks plus. If by that time anybody still wants them I will see what we can do.

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Many thanks Xercules old chap ... all understood

The only 'challenge' I ever experienced if I forgot my checks ... was a gentle clomp on the Bonedome

Might still be good to get a couple of example FRC extracts up on here ... They would certainly interest me

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FRC's

I can remember (just) back in the old days as a pimply faced APO taxying out and laboriously going through the TAFFIOHH (T Trim F Fuel etc) checks at the speed of the average glacier, when at the end my instructor said don't forget GFI. I pondered then admitted defeat and asked ," What's GFI?"
"Get F****n' Airborne!" was the exasperated reply.
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It was rumoured that following the introduction of Flight Deck Voice recorders, the first word usually uttered following a genuine ringing of the fire bells or engine failure was s**t. That was usually enough to get the directional consultant scrabbling for the check list.

By the way are there any members of S.O.D.C.A.T. still around. (Pulls out pin, throws grenade and ducks for cover)
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I think Dougie M is a founder member of SODCAT ....

Certainly AA qualifies under the "AT" portion of the acronym ...
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Apparently there is still a gap after The Society of Chiropodists and Podiatrists and before The Society of Radiographers on here ...

Trades Union Congress - Britain's Unions

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ok another try ! XV177 on holtville DZ
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