Russia beating up USA warship
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I like F3's piccie- I even think I remember what it is!
Yeah I noticed 1/2 mile and 500 feet- Sukhoi must have been a mere dot on the horizon. However to the general public, reading the articles stressing how dangerous this is, it must seem like a big deal. I remember in 2009 &2010, when our (Canada's) Defence Minister made a series of big press releases like the following Canadians hunt Russian Bear | Welland Tribune or another when Bears came 463 kilometres east of Goose Bay, Newfoundland. "closer than we have seen in recent times."and we "chased them away". guaranteed to excite the citizenry.
Only ship I ever got close to was a close photoshoot with the IAF camera of a tanker off Grimsby suspected of leaving a big oil slick.
Yeah I noticed 1/2 mile and 500 feet- Sukhoi must have been a mere dot on the horizon. However to the general public, reading the articles stressing how dangerous this is, it must seem like a big deal. I remember in 2009 &2010, when our (Canada's) Defence Minister made a series of big press releases like the following Canadians hunt Russian Bear | Welland Tribune or another when Bears came 463 kilometres east of Goose Bay, Newfoundland. "closer than we have seen in recent times."and we "chased them away". guaranteed to excite the citizenry.Only ship I ever got close to was a close photoshoot with the IAF camera of a tanker off Grimsby suspected of leaving a big oil slick.
June 5th 1980. 27 Sqn had missed a sortie or something and so it was up to us as a 617 (non-MRR crew) to relocate the Kiev/Minsk (can't remember which). We found the group, which immediately huddled together for warmth, i.e. to form one radar response. They then split and we had to decide which response to concentrate on before a descent for a SELPRO. We homed in at 500' and at about 8nm the AEO's panel lit up as I had never seen it before. Luckily we had chosen the right return and the great vessel hoved into view out of the murk. The captain said, "If you open the bomb doors, I shall be very cross." (Or words to that effect.) I stayed on HOME rather than go to BOMB and scuttled up the ladder for a good view. As we passed over her the ship's company were waving their headgear - all good, clean fun.
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"It's ok, he fires one, I fire one" is a quote from the movie 'The Bedford Incident' (Richard Widmark, Sidney Poitier, Martin Balsam, Ronnie Cox) not from Hawaii Five-0.
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Originally Posted by Saint Jack
"It's ok, he fires one, I fire one" is a quote from the movie 'The Bedford Incident' (Richard Widmark, Sidney Poitier, Martin Balsam, Ronnie Cox) not from Hawaii Five-0.
Detective Daniel "Danno" Williams, played by James MacArthur* (Seasons 1-11)
* Though many of his movie parts were not starring roles, and some were quite brief, they were usually pivotal to the plot. His role in The Bedford Incident was that of a young ensign who becomes so rattled by the needling of his Captain (Richard Widemark) that he accidentally fires an ASROC at a Soviet submarine, thus creating a nuclear incident when the submarine returns fire, resulting in the destruction of both vessels.
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That may well be so, but international protocol limits the number of passes to 3, not 12
the way the baby bear has been going lately they may have found a technicality.Along those lines I read on one of the news reports that the aircraft in question had no markings on it. Must of been one of those "non Russian" proclaimed self defence forces jet.
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Fomenting unrest in a neighbouring state
And one more thing - we're all living in a media-controlled world, so neither you nor me have the whole picture of what is happening, so let's try to be a little bit more skeptical when watching TV next time.
That's the reason why I say: let the military guys play their games, at least they'll have some more stories to tell their grandchildren about a crazy Russian fighter or a gigantic US warship
Viktor Leonov SSV-175 was noted off Florida along with Tug Nikolay Chiker during March. Nikolay Chiker is now back off Florida.
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we're all living in a media-controlled world, so neither you nor me have the whole picture of what is happening, so let's try to be a little bit more skeptical when watching TV next time.
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Your right there, but there's a major difference between the west and Russia
Here's a picture for you
Sorry for Russian, but you'll get the meaning.
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That may well be so, but international protocol limits the number of passes to 3, not 12
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I think there's no major difference if you believe in what you've just said.
This will give a right wing view for some and a left for others, and a mixture depending on the independent reporters they have reporting live from the scene.
At the end of the day if you are really interested in whats going on its easy enough to filter out the sh!t. Another words its obvious what news is just propaganda.
FoN Ops in the Black Sea. I remember being in a few back in the 80's. A few days port call in Istanbul (woo hoo! ) followed by a few days sailing near the territorial limits of Bulgaria, Romania, and various points north. Always had a welcoming committee, and always had an escort. Usually got a flypast from our friends with Red Stars, once it was a Backfire.
On another occasion, there was a Slava and a Krivak in formation with us, and an FFL (forget the class... EDIT, might have been a Petya). If we had the same flag signals, the five of us could have done division maneuvring tactics for a while. As it was, when they came close by to play chicken with us, our CO put on our above deck loudspeaker "Back in the USSR" by the Beatles, at full blast. Good times had by all.
Now that the Bulgarians and Romanians are on side with us, the Black Sea visits are doubtless more interesting than before, with port calls in places like Varna.
The INCSEA agreements were drawn up to avoid messy things happening when playing tag. Not sure if US and Russia have renewed them, or established a newer protocol.
Has he dropped by to pay his taxes? 
) followed by a few days sailing near the territorial limits of Bulgaria, Romania, and various points north. Always had a welcoming committee, and always had an escort. Usually got a flypast from our friends with Red Stars, once it was a Backfire. On another occasion, there was a Slava and a Krivak in formation with us, and an FFL (forget the class... EDIT, might have been a Petya). If we had the same flag signals, the five of us could have done division maneuvring tactics for a while. As it was, when they came close by to play chicken with us, our CO put on our above deck loudspeaker "Back in the USSR" by the Beatles, at full blast. Good times had by all.
Now that the Bulgarians and Romanians are on side with us, the Black Sea visits are doubtless more interesting than before, with port calls in places like Varna.
The INCSEA agreements were drawn up to avoid messy things happening when playing tag. Not sure if US and Russia have renewed them, or established a newer protocol.
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Viktor Leonov SSV-175 was noted off Florida along with Tug Nikolay Chiker during March. Nikolay Chiker is now back off Florida. 15th April 06 GMT
Viktor Leonov SSV-175 was noted off Florida along with Tug Nikolay Chiker during March. Nikolay Chiker is now back off Florida. 15th April 06 GMT
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I remember the good old days of FOST training at Portland when prior to kick off of the Thursday War, a Russian AGI would park its arse slap bang in the middle of the Ex area. The Hunters would get airborne for their air raids on the Fleet (when we had one !) and warm up by buzzing the hell out of it.
Always met with a "Good Morning" from said ship.
All very amicable.
Always met with a "Good Morning" from said ship.
All very amicable.
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