2014 Typhoon display jet 'special' colour scheme...
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2014 Typhoon display jet 'special' colour scheme...
With 29(R) providing this seasons dispaly jet/pilot, a 'special' colour scheme has been applied to the dispaly jet, hmm....
29 Sqn Typhoon Display Paint Scheme ? FighterControl ? Home to the Military Aviation Enthusiast
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Cynic in me says that the painting of the canards in that manner means it'll spend more time on the ground at displays showing them than it will be in the air showing what it can do.
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ow I suppose we will soon be off on the XXX=30 not 29 roundabout again.
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I think that the markings on the Typhoon are dreadful and display a lack of proper investment in time and money. How is it that other NATO nations manage to achieve such a high standard for their aircraft paint designs and finishes. I know that the RAF does have somewhere, hidden away, some talented graphic designers who could do the aircraft justice. If this is what the RAF wants to display around the world on it's No1 Fighter aircraft, then I am disappointed.
As regards the TRIPLEX squadron markings, they are not because we all drank Batemans Triplex beer. Explanation below.
As regards the TRIPLEX squadron markings, they are not because we all drank Batemans Triplex beer. Explanation below.
Since the late 1920s, the squadron marking has been three (red) Xs (XXX). Since this closely resembles the Roman
numeral for "29" (XXIX) there is a "traditional" belief among current squadron personnel that this originated as a "misspelling" of the Roman numeral.
Although various versions of the tradition are put forward, the most common explanation is that a mis-understood instruction to ground crew to paint "2 X's in front of the roundel and IX behind it" meaning "X,X,(roundel), and 'IX' or 'one-X')" resulted in "XX(roundel)'one times' X".
numeral for "29" (XXIX) there is a "traditional" belief among current squadron personnel that this originated as a "misspelling" of the Roman numeral.
Although various versions of the tradition are put forward, the most common explanation is that a mis-understood instruction to ground crew to paint "2 X's in front of the roundel and IX behind it" meaning "X,X,(roundel), and 'IX' or 'one-X')" resulted in "XX(roundel)'one times' X".
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Won't all that black make it too visible for the primary task?
Anyway, it does look less Luftwaffe than the Line jobs.
Anyway, it does look less Luftwaffe than the Line jobs.
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You're spending too much time on here now you've retired.
You should come down to the SHIP on a Sunday lunchtime to watch the football and have a pint or 3.
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You should come down to the SHIP on a Sunday lunchtime to watch the football and have a pint or 3.
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[CODE]Since the late 1920s, the squadron marking has been three (red) Xs (XXX).[/CODE
I know it's April 1st ,however.
Nope. It's simply not true, Sorry.
I know it's April 1st ,however.
Nope. It's simply not true, Sorry.
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Make a comment with confidence and somebody might believe you. However, there's always someone who knows where to find the facts (even if they are only Wikifacts).
That first piccie on the right looks like a Siskin, is described as such and has the three Xs - the text tells us that 11 sqns were equipped with Siskins in the mid-1920s, and it would seem that 29 was one of them.
Sorry Haraka: Nope [what you wrote] it's simply not true.
I have heard the version about XX then one (I) X many years ago when I was based at Scampton on Vs during a visit (fughter affil debrief) to CGY. It sounds as plausible as any other.
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That first piccie on the right looks like a Siskin, is described as such and has the three Xs - the text tells us that 11 sqns were equipped with Siskins in the mid-1920s, and it would seem that 29 was one of them.
Sorry Haraka: Nope [what you wrote] it's simply not true.
I have heard the version about XX then one (I) X many years ago when I was based at Scampton on Vs during a visit (fughter affil debrief) to CGY. It sounds as plausible as any other.
Mister B
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It became three 'X' because that's what would fit on the side of the airframe concerned (Siskin IIRC)
(I'll give you the answer , at least sometimes it was two- one either side of the roundel.)
For HTB's benefit.
When 29 Sqn (along with other squadrons taking up then unofficial squadron schemes) adopted its"X" 's on its Grebes in the mid '20's the number was indeterminate, the primary marking being a line of diagonal crosses -probably three in total ( not letter X's incidentally ) across the upper wing with some repeated on the fuselage.
As dave f68 pointed out, four of these crosses were certainly marked on some of the Grebes. This fact along I think satisfactorily demolishes the XX, one X fable.
The number of crosses was certainly six across the wing in at least some Siskin IIIas photographed in the late 20's , with the broad chord of that wing allowing them to be made quite sizeable. Three crosses either side of the fuselage roundel was also normal.
Apparently with the introduction of the Bulldog into the squadron in 1932, the number of fuselage crosses dropped down to one either side of the roundel.
As noted a single X has also been photographed either side of the fuselage roundel on a 29 Demon in 1935. which knocks down the myth of XXX having been strictly adopted in the late 20's.
Post WW2 the three crosses either side of the fuselage roundel came to be standard on the fuselage bars of Meteor, Javelin and Lightning etc.
My interest in all this only came about when meeting( and once flying with) 29Sqn in their Lightning days in the 60's .
When 29 Sqn (along with other squadrons taking up then unofficial squadron schemes) adopted its"X" 's on its Grebes in the mid '20's the number was indeterminate, the primary marking being a line of diagonal crosses -probably three in total ( not letter X's incidentally ) across the upper wing with some repeated on the fuselage.
As dave f68 pointed out, four of these crosses were certainly marked on some of the Grebes. This fact along I think satisfactorily demolishes the XX, one X fable.
The number of crosses was certainly six across the wing in at least some Siskin IIIas photographed in the late 20's , with the broad chord of that wing allowing them to be made quite sizeable. Three crosses either side of the fuselage roundel was also normal.
Apparently with the introduction of the Bulldog into the squadron in 1932, the number of fuselage crosses dropped down to one either side of the roundel.
As noted a single X has also been photographed either side of the fuselage roundel on a 29 Demon in 1935. which knocks down the myth of XXX having been strictly adopted in the late 20's.
Post WW2 the three crosses either side of the fuselage roundel came to be standard on the fuselage bars of Meteor, Javelin and Lightning etc.
My interest in all this only came about when meeting( and once flying with) 29Sqn in their Lightning days in the 60's .
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Not letters
...and there's me thinking all these years that XV sqn was populated by ex V-Force people. Who would have thought, eh?
And what did the Romans ever do for us? Apart from a system of numerals that you need to read very quickly at the end of film or TV programme credits.
Mister B
...and there's me thinking all these years that XV sqn was populated by ex V-Force people. Who would have thought, eh?And what did the Romans ever do for us? Apart from a system of numerals that you need to read very quickly at the end of film or TV programme credits.
Mister B