617 & 12 Squadron Disbandment Parade
Hangarshuffle, you really do come across, at times, as a rather sad, uninformed and opinionated critic of everything light blue. You have clearly been wounded in the past and are still carrying the scars of past battles or personal conflict. Someone needs to buy you a beer to help you re-habilitate.
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A very sad day when yet another 2 Squadrons with so much history are disbanded, even if they were not Fighter Squadrons. Am I right in understanding that due to the poor weather the parade was held indoors and consequently there was no flypast.
O, how things have changed. Such an important occasion should have been celebrated by a flypast if safe (and legal) to do so. Even if the formation was at MDH, Min Vector Alt or SALT if the weather was THAT poor it would have been a tribute to all who have served. Equally, it would have provided a fitting end to two distinguished squadrons rather than finishing like a damp squib.
Has the RAF really changed so much that H&S and Risk Management allow such poor decisions to be made. If that shows good leadership and sound judgement, then heaven help the RAF!
O, how things have changed. Such an important occasion should have been celebrated by a flypast if safe (and legal) to do so. Even if the formation was at MDH, Min Vector Alt or SALT if the weather was THAT poor it would have been a tribute to all who have served. Equally, it would have provided a fitting end to two distinguished squadrons rather than finishing like a damp squib.
Has the RAF really changed so much that H&S and Risk Management allow such poor decisions to be made. If that shows good leadership and sound judgement, then heaven help the RAF!
I remember the 100 Sqn Canberra Sundowner at Wyton in 91/92? Can't remember who flew the 2 ship flypast in VERY marginal weather but it certainly wouldn't have gone ahead nowadays!
Sad to see two fine Sqns go.
Sad to see two fine Sqns go.
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There is always a way as long as one is conversant with the rules and knows how to work round them. I sense that the spirit that once existed has been knocked out of people.
Any CR crews should be able to overfly a point on their own airfield at 500ft MSD without any difficulty day, night or IMC.
Any CR crews should be able to overfly a point on their own airfield at 500ft MSD without any difficulty day, night or IMC.
The flypast 4-ship was due to be 'Tirpitz 21-24', who were heard working Tain at the time. XV Sqn didn't fly on Friday. Admittedly, any GR4 crew should be familiar with Lossie!
Dom2, The flypast was not cancelled because of flying weather, or because of any lack of skill or spirit on the part of the crews. The parade was held indoors so no one would have seen it!
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You miss my point. It is those making the decisions who are out of touch. I bet that the crews would have loved to do the flypast, even though the parade was indoors. Equally, most of those attending or in the surrounding area would still have appreciated the noise and precision of a flypast, on time and at the correct location.
If you were one of those who made the decision to cancel the flypast I would suggest that you canvas opinion as to its correctness. There is normally more than one angle to view any decision. The first solution that comes to mind may not be the best.
For those who had a true feeling for both 12 and 617 it was a let down for there to be NO flypast to mark the demise of two such famous squadrons.
You miss my point. It is those making the decisions who are out of touch. I bet that the crews would have loved to do the flypast, even though the parade was indoors. Equally, most of those attending or in the surrounding area would still have appreciated the noise and precision of a flypast, on time and at the correct location.
If you were one of those who made the decision to cancel the flypast I would suggest that you canvas opinion as to its correctness. There is normally more than one angle to view any decision. The first solution that comes to mind may not be the best.
For those who had a true feeling for both 12 and 617 it was a let down for there to be NO flypast to mark the demise of two such famous squadrons.
I'm sure 1435 Flt did a flypast for this guy (we certainly planned it):
Blind Dave's 7-day marathon ends in London - Telegraph
It's a shame it couldn't have been re-arranged for the end of the parade. A 4-ship followed by a beat-up?
I assume protocol doesn't allow it?
Blind Dave's 7-day marathon ends in London - Telegraph
It's a shame it couldn't have been re-arranged for the end of the parade. A 4-ship followed by a beat-up?
I assume protocol doesn't allow it?
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The laying up of the Standards of 12 (Bomber) Sqn and 617 Sqn in the Rotunda of College Hall.
I thought it appropriate to close this thread with the pictures recently released on the RAF College Cranwell FaceBook Page ...
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I thought it appropriate to close this thread with the pictures recently released on the RAF College Cranwell FaceBook Page ...
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Timeline 30th April 2014
