I'm not sure appreciated quite how much Saudi Arabia bought from BAES...
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I'm not sure appreciated quite how much Saudi Arabia bought from BAES...
Current annual defence spending:
USA: 351 Bn
China: 60 Bn
Russia: 48 Bn
UK: 35Bn
Japan: 33Bn
France: 32Bn
India: 27Bn
Saudi: 27Bn
Germany: 27BN
S. Korea: 20BN
All in adjusted £terling, source IHS Janes
USA: 351 Bn
China: 60 Bn
Russia: 48 Bn
UK: 35Bn
Japan: 33Bn
France: 32Bn
India: 27Bn
Saudi: 27Bn
Germany: 27BN
S. Korea: 20BN
All in adjusted £terling, source IHS Janes
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Quoting national defence expenditure gives no indication of what percentage is spent on manpower, R&D, equipment and operations. Neither does it give an indication of the proportion spent on each service (and some include both Coast Guard and Border Protection). Finally it gives no indication on what percentage is spent with foreign manufacturers.
It should be further pointed out that ignoring naval, artillery/tank and other non-aviation manufacturers, the RSAF inventory contains 150+ x F-15s and 130+ x F-5s vs approx 100 x Tornado/Typhoon. Let alone their entire transport/tanker/Helo fleets whig are totally US or European.
So, exactly how much do †hey spend with BWoS?
It should be further pointed out that ignoring naval, artillery/tank and other non-aviation manufacturers, the RSAF inventory contains 150+ x F-15s and 130+ x F-5s vs approx 100 x Tornado/Typhoon. Let alone their entire transport/tanker/Helo fleets whig are totally US or European.
So, exactly how much do †hey spend with BWoS?
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dervish, it is actually all defence expenditure, but I get your drift, Saudi certainly didn't spend £27Bn on equipment either, nor would they have spent all their equipment money with BAE.
It is the title that is misleading but never-the-less the figures are instructive.
While wage rates will be a most significant factor, look at Russia with a £13Bn more than UK and all those rocket forces and submarines to maintain.
It is the title that is misleading but never-the-less the figures are instructive.
While wage rates will be a most significant factor, look at Russia with a £13Bn more than UK and all those rocket forces and submarines to maintain.
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150+ x F-15s and 130+ x F-5s vs approx 100 x Tornado/Typhoon
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The F5s are no longer in service. The last ones flew in 2010 and most survivors are in open storage here at Taif.
If you look on Google Earth and locate the Hookwire towards the end of Runway 35 and then look east you will see what looks like a taxiway but was originally an emergency runway. I counted 78 but that may have changed.
Doubt if theres a bigger line up of F5s anywhere else in the world!
The F5s are no longer in service. The last ones flew in 2010 and most survivors are in open storage here at Taif.
If you look on Google Earth and locate the Hookwire towards the end of Runway 35 and then look east you will see what looks like a taxiway but was originally an emergency runway. I counted 78 but that may have changed.
Doubt if theres a bigger line up of F5s anywhere else in the world!
I recall many, many years ago we ("Requirement Managers" in today speak and named "owners" of equipment as we made materiel and financial provision, wrote Board Summissions and were responsible for ARM) were each asked how much our (FAA/RM) avionics contracts with BAe were worth. No other company. My calculator toppled around £1Bn and my colleagues were the same. Mind you, in those days (early 80s) we had bags of SHAR, SK, Lx, Gazelle, Hunters, Herons (!) and so on, and all Merlin contracts were let. It was still an awful lot at 30+ year old prices.
Of course the important contracts couldn't be trusted to them so were with Ferranti, Plessey and Marconi.
Of course the important contracts couldn't be trusted to them so were with Ferranti, Plessey and Marconi.
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We don't spend £35Bn on equipment, more like £10Bn I think, so are we sure this is comparing like with like?
It is the title that is misleading
Whilst fully expecting someone to list all the gold plated (literally?) kit that they have I merely (jokingly) implied that the only way they could spend so much and get so little is by buying from you know who.
Quoting national defence expenditure gives no indication of what percentage is spent on manpower, R&D, equipment and operations. Neither does it give an indication of the proportion spent on each service (and some include both Coast Guard and Border Protection). Finally it gives no indication on what percentage is spent with foreign manufacturers.
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So, exactly how much do †hey spend with BWoS?
So, exactly how much do †hey spend with BWoS?
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...a large amount of those greenbacks would no doubt be in relation to a porky... sorry tubby, little jet currently under development?
Lets see... of a total of $351bn in 2012 the US spent a total of $9.1623bn on the entire F-35 program.
That's 2.61% of total expenditures for the year.
In 2012 the US spent $3.4986bn on the various H-60 models, $2.9849 on the V-22, $2.9115bn on the P-8A, $2.5163bn on the F/A-18, $2.5065bn on the C-130, and so on.
The site above contains links for the other parts of the DOD budget as well.
For example, in FY2013 the USN spent $4.87bn on the DDG-51 program, $4.81bn on the Virginia-class SSN program, and $2.33bn on the LCS program.
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Go to 21degrees 29'52.03N 40degrees 33'28.92E
Or if you go back in history to 2010 look for 5 Tristars lined up. They were stored there until broken up last year..
Go to 21degrees 29'52.03N 40degrees 33'28.92E
Or if you go back in history to 2010 look for 5 Tristars lined up. They were stored there until broken up last year..