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UK Maritime Patrol Aircraft - An Urgent Requirement

Old 21st Apr 2015, 13:12
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Old 21st Apr 2015, 20:54
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Again, srsly? The concept of having a flying T23, with a pretty decent sonar, and passive capability, that can deploy from a ship, with decent legs, better than anything the USN or French can put up, who have been proved operationally in more than 1 theatre, is

crap
Care to actually defend that statement?
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Old 21st Apr 2015, 22:36
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Originally Posted by Not_a_boffin View Post
Back in the 90s I remember a defence study which attempted to look at the future in 2015. It was a NATO event and although I haven't dug out the material in years, the one thing it did suggest was that mass movement of refugees / displaced persons / economic migrants from Africa to Europe was going to be a major feature.
It was briefed as the major political threat to the NATO Southern Region:
It came as a package:
Water shortages/water rights conflicts
Food scarcity
Population expansion
Uncontrolled migration

I used to give that brief to visitors at our HQ. The basics of brief was crafted from NATO HQ and passed down to the subordinate commands.

It was the "shared truth" of sixteen nations.

That the US would start another ruckus in Iraq or elsewhere was not part of the strategic brief, but this was the 90's. I'd be interested to see what the standard brief is now in various NATO HQ's.
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Old 27th Apr 2015, 11:36
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Submarine spotted in Scapa Flow. on 27 Apr 2015. Believed to be friendly (Netherlands)
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Old 27th Apr 2015, 15:47
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Terrible shame no-one was that alert 76 years ago.

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Old 28th Apr 2015, 15:10
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Finland fires warning shots at 'foreign submarine' near Helsinki - Telegraph
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Old 29th Apr 2015, 12:28
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Old 29th Apr 2015, 13:12
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Old 29th Apr 2015, 15:47
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damn - it does look a fine MPA - even with 2 missing donks! Just the UK driver this time?
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Old 29th Apr 2015, 18:21
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Nah!.....

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Old 30th Apr 2015, 08:15
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Enjoy your visit home (er, your 'source' that is). Shame it looks like Lossie is too busy with QRA to fit in a few MPA these days. Still, going by some of the random recoveries I've seen since the tiffies arrived, you're better off down there Bet you've had your fill of Wendy's by now though!
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Old 1st May 2015, 15:15
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ahem - the panty liner has yet to be invited that can hold an AEO's 'output' Still proud I never needed to buy a slab in 20 years. I think I was 'cured' by my first OCU trip to Gib and seeing the bog contents emptied down the clear plastic sausage tube under the port beam window. Fair play to the VAS linies - they sure knew their sh*t!
Anyhoo - do tell more on these purchase rumours - by talking about 'runners' you seem to imply there is a viable 'race'? Would love it to be so but my cynicism dimmer switch is fully on....
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Old 2nd May 2015, 12:42
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Casa C295MPA spotted at Culdrose!
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Old 4th May 2015, 07:11
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And the last time a UK MPA dropped live ordinance was........
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Old 4th May 2015, 07:14
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C295 Maritime Patrol Aircraft - Naval Technology
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Old 4th May 2015, 08:21
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Originally Posted by betty swallox View Post
...toothless poodle...
Very objective assessment?
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Old 4th May 2015, 09:47
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And the last time a UK MPA dropped live ordinance was........
2010 - the last year of Nimrod MR2

Or did you mean a warshot weapon?
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Old 4th May 2015, 11:05
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Jayland, if you meant warshot against a hostile target then you, in common with many others, show a common misconception about successful Defence.

Success is about preventing the need to use earshot. The Cold War was a prime example of success. The Falklands, while an excellent feat of arms, was a complete failure of Defence Diplomacy which the then Foreign Secretary and Secretary of Defence acknowledged when they offered to resign.

The deployment of F3 before GW 1 were similarly an example of successful Defence Diplomacy as they could well have deferred further Iraqi adventurism.

Wars of choice, OTOH, are not Defence Diplomacy and your target depends on your putative foe.
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Old 5th May 2015, 01:22
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Ordinance…?

Nimrods stopping noise after 9pm…or no cricket on Sundays?
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Old 5th May 2015, 01:40
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The pedant in me wanted to do a similar post, but I resisted

Is it where the sonoboys go?
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