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UK Maritime Patrol Aircraft - An Urgent Requirement

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Old 16th Feb 2015, 12:52
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This is really strange; I thought the P8 was for Anti-submarine patrol, not designed to protect airspace from Russian Bombers as well!

Maybe they intend to strap a whole load of anti aircraft missiles to the wings!
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Old 16th Feb 2015, 13:26
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The APY-10 has an air-to-air mode.

I suspect the Mail should have said "lease" rather than "borrow".
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Old 16th Feb 2015, 16:42
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"Given Russia's rearmament and blatant expansionism, is panic quietly beginning to settle in at Downing St?"


Don't be silly - the Russians don't have a vote in May.................
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"And the cost sseem similar or higher than a P-8"


Japanese MOD press conference on P1 funding for SDF below.

P1 Cost around 95 million GBP each. (Fag packet sums- happy to be corrected)

Extra Press Conference by the Defense Minister Nakatani(02:43-02:50 P.M. January 11, 2015)
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I held a negotiation with the minister of finance a short while ago, in which he approved our plan to procure 20 P-1 fixed-wing patrol aircraft through a long-term contract. In addition, the finance minister also approved our plan to appropriate 350.4 billion yen for that purpose. We had requested that amount to deal with security issues in sea areas surrounding Japan including the southwestern region. This approval is extremely vital for us from the viewpoint of improving the Self-Defense Forces operations and strengthening Japan's defense capability. With the enhancement, we intend to firmly protect Japan's maritime security.

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Old 2nd Mar 2015, 12:11
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I appreciate that this link has been posted elsewhere on PPRuNe, however, there's some direct relevance to this thread re MPA/MMA.

US fears that Britain's defence cuts will diminish Army on world stage - Telegraph
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Old 2nd Mar 2015, 14:04
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For example, following the Coalition’s decision to scrap the RAF’s Nimrod maritime patrol aircraft, we no longer have the ability to track the activities of Russian nuclear attack submarines in the North Sea. A simple, cost-effective replacement would be to purchase the Boeing P8 Posiedon, with similar capabilities, which the RAF estimates would cost around £200 million a year – a reasonable investment, you might think, given the state of tensions between London and Moscow.

By coincidence, £200 million is exactly the same amount of money Britain donates to India in foreign aid each year. As a result of its generosity, Britain cannot afford the P8; India, on the other hand, has a fleet of the aircraft to protect its own territorial waters.
No agenda there then......
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Old 2nd Mar 2015, 14:44
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£200 million a year in costs seems a bit light to me.
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Old 2nd Mar 2015, 14:53
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The cost seems light because we would be buying a proven system from Boeing, not letting BAe skin us alive to very slowly re-invent the wheel !
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...not letting BAe skin us alive to very slowly re-invent the wheel !
Which would probably be square anyway - and the procurement team would have doubtless forgotten to have included an axle in the specification!
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Davef68. What do you suggest, then?
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Old 2nd Mar 2015, 17:21
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Personally, I'd cut the overseas aid budget and order P-8s. But that isn't going to suit Cameron's social liberal sensibilites nor his desired legacy
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Awesome reply!!

Like!
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Old 3rd Mar 2015, 07:22
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Like x 2

Also like BEagles last comment.
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Old 6th Mar 2015, 10:54
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IS lower themselves to using same tactics as UK Coalition govt -BBC News - Outcry as Islamic State bulldozers 'wreck' Nimrud, Iraq
what? bulldozing nimrud? I thought they said......I'll get my coat
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Old 19th Mar 2015, 14:01
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It's all over. There will not be another MPA in my lifetime and the 'seedcorn' will just wither on the vine. Get real chaps. It's over.
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Old 19th Mar 2015, 14:08
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It's all over. There will not be another MPA in my lifetime and the 'seedcorn' will just wither on the vine. Get real chaps. It's over.
Bit of a random post with little to no substance behind it... Want to clarify or just being pessimistic?
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Old 19th Mar 2015, 14:25
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Sometimes you don't need substance. You could call it pessimistic or you could call it realistic?
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"It's all over. There will not be another MPA in my lifetime and the 'seedcorn' will just wither on the vine. Get real chaps. It's over."

That may come as news to a lot of people right now...
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Old 19th Mar 2015, 14:59
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Interesting - private eye are reporting a lease deal being signed for Poseidon if the tories win the election or at least win the love in afterwards

or again it might just be a recycling from here .....shome mishtake shurely
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Does corn grow on a vine? ;-)
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