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Hi folks,
Looking to find informations regarding jobs at Ascent Flight Training.
Anybody could share somme informations regarding what to expect on a contract (mean gross salary, benefits and allowances or eventual bonuses?)
Would they hire non-british people?
Trans a lot for any information.
Cheers,
Laurent
Looking to find informations regarding jobs at Ascent Flight Training.
Anybody could share somme informations regarding what to expect on a contract (mean gross salary, benefits and allowances or eventual bonuses?)
Would they hire non-british people?
Trans a lot for any information.
Cheers,
Laurent
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Mate - probably best to speak to them directly. There is a link here for current vacancies.
Current Vacancies | Ascent Flight Training
Good luck
Mate - probably best to speak to them directly. There is a link here for current vacancies.
Current Vacancies | Ascent Flight Training
Good luck
Agree with you there 100%, RP!
I wouldn't even be tempted to buy snake oil from the person from Ascent who recently gave us a brief on how well MFTS was going....
How long before people wake up to the fact that PFI military training is an unsustainable, complete and utter crock, which (with any luck) is doomed to failure.
I see that one 'essential' requirement for the BJFT SME they're trying to recruit is that the candidate must be:
A 'regular' 500 mile round trip by road or 5 hours each way on a train chugging its way from Shabby Wood through at least two dozen stations in Wales, eh? That sounds like a pretty appealing 'essential requirement'....
I wouldn't even be tempted to buy snake oil from the person from Ascent who recently gave us a brief on how well MFTS was going....
How long before people wake up to the fact that PFI military training is an unsustainable, complete and utter crock, which (with any luck) is doomed to failure.
I see that one 'essential' requirement for the BJFT SME they're trying to recruit is that the candidate must be:
Prepared to operate on a regular basis between the two key centres: Ascent HQ (Bristol) and RAF Valley
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Essential skills for FJ SME from the advert
Guess that's me out then, unless an iPhone counts as an oral and written communicator.
Strong team player with excellent oral and written communicator;
BEags,
As ever, I think you're spot on. In the mean time, Laurent, it's all we have at the moment, so go ahead and give it a go. As long as you like the travelling. I can't see that the MoD has a way of resurecting the Phoenix anytime soon so I think your job would be safe for a while.
As ever, I think you're spot on. In the mean time, Laurent, it's all we have at the moment, so go ahead and give it a go. As long as you like the travelling. I can't see that the MoD has a way of resurecting the Phoenix anytime soon so I think your job would be safe for a while.
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Laurent,
In direct answer to your original query, I would recommend emailing the questions you have to [email protected]
All the best
In direct answer to your original query, I would recommend emailing the questions you have to [email protected]
All the best
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Given your location and evident interest, furrydude, are you perchance one of the people running the utter crock known as MFTS?
If so, no doubt you will be able to cast light on the current rumour doing the rounds that 4 Sqn (under Ascent) have temporarily had to stop training students? Who are now being sent to 208 Sqn for traditional RAF training instead? The rumour being that Ascent will have to sort things out for themselves as everyone else wishes to see the return of a proper RAF training system - and the end of this flawed PFI nonsense.
Good luck in finding anyone happy to commute regularly between Valley and Filton.....
If so, no doubt you will be able to cast light on the current rumour doing the rounds that 4 Sqn (under Ascent) have temporarily had to stop training students? Who are now being sent to 208 Sqn for traditional RAF training instead? The rumour being that Ascent will have to sort things out for themselves as everyone else wishes to see the return of a proper RAF training system - and the end of this flawed PFI nonsense.
Good luck in finding anyone happy to commute regularly between Valley and Filton.....
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First, i'm very new here so please go easy on me.
I agree with the previous poster, the rumours reaching us from the courses that have made it to Valley suggest that it will be a rough ride to the OCU; poor morale, stop-start flying and insufficient qualified instructors.
I agree with the previous poster, the rumours reaching us from the courses that have made it to Valley suggest that it will be a rough ride to the OCU; poor morale, stop-start flying and insufficient qualified instructors.
wannabeTyphoon, sorry to hear that things are so bad.
Rumours that there aren't enough trained QFIs for Ascent's training task and that student training has had to be restricted (if not binned altogether, except for a few on 208), whilst frantic attempts are made to train further QFIs, would appear to be true.....
But is there really now a 9 month delay in student output targets as a result of Ascent's fai...'issues'?
Are the wheels already coming off this half-baked piece of short-termist nonsense?
I hope that you will get to that Typhoon seat one of these days, wannabeTyphoon and that it will be worth the wait. I sincerely hope that it will be. But perhaps their airships need to think less exclusively about the futile North-West Frontier campaign and more about long-term sustainability?
Rumours that there aren't enough trained QFIs for Ascent's training task and that student training has had to be restricted (if not binned altogether, except for a few on 208), whilst frantic attempts are made to train further QFIs, would appear to be true.....
But is there really now a 9 month delay in student output targets as a result of Ascent's fai...'issues'?
Are the wheels already coming off this half-baked piece of short-termist nonsense?
I hope that you will get to that Typhoon seat one of these days, wannabeTyphoon and that it will be worth the wait. I sincerely hope that it will be. But perhaps their airships need to think less exclusively about the futile North-West Frontier campaign and more about long-term sustainability?
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A nice thought, but, the majority of 'airships' at the top these days are wokka types with only a recent operational background in the North West Frontier!
The fall from grace of the Fast Jet jockey since we went back to the sandpit after '91 has been damaging top-end capability ever since we let a kipper mate in to run 11Gp.
In recent years, FJs have not been 'sexy' in the eyes of military.
IMHO, of course...
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A nice thought, but, the majority of 'airships' at the top these days are wokka types with only a recent operational background in the North West Frontier!
The fall from grace of the Fast Jet jockey since we went back to the sandpit after '91 has been damaging top-end capability ever since we let a kipper mate in to run 11Gp.
In recent years, FJs have not been 'sexy' in the eyes of military.
IMHO, of course...
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Wow, not really great news then....
I still haven't understood the way the training has been set up but, being non-British, I expected some kind of a well developed system with a precise and careful study behind from RAF.
If the contract was awarded for 25 years I thought there had been tons of reasons, from development of a new training system to the sustainment of it.
I guess there's no recommandation to look for further evidence of investigating about reliability and opportunites, for what I read in the forum.
Cheers,
Laurent
I still haven't understood the way the training has been set up but, being non-British, I expected some kind of a well developed system with a precise and careful study behind from RAF.
If the contract was awarded for 25 years I thought there had been tons of reasons, from development of a new training system to the sustainment of it.
I guess there's no recommandation to look for further evidence of investigating about reliability and opportunites, for what I read in the forum.
Cheers,
Laurent
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Even if I'll try to contact then to understand what is their position and SA about the Ascent adventure.
If anybody has further evidence or information, please feel free to add, e speciali if coming from inside!
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Curious as to the wages (at Ascent), of which there appears to be no mention - bearing in mind a PA Flt Lt in his, or her, mid 40s with the requisite experience would be on circa £65 - £70K if still in the raf, and perhaps approaching a £20K pension after leaving.
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On reading these criticisms of alleged delay and disorganisation in the flying training system I'm intrigued as to what it's being compared to. Before starting BFTS in the eighties it was three months before I even had a course date -which was a further four months away. It then came forward by five weeks. In both cases without a word of explanation, not that I that I'd have asked for one, happily holding on full pay! I don't recall anyone asking us about our morale either.
What HAS changed is that if anyone were to have indulged in public criticism of the system back then, their career would have ground to a halt at that instant!
What HAS changed is that if anyone were to have indulged in public criticism of the system back then, their career would have ground to a halt at that instant!
What HAS changed is that if anyone were to have indulged in public criticism of the system back then, their career would have ground to a halt at that instant!
Don't want criticism? Then don't cause it! Simple!!
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I went down to Ascent just over 3 years ago for interview. All very polite in the first session, 2 SME guys both ex mil who checked out my background and knowledge.
Second interview,senior manager and HR lady. Asked to give a presentation with 30 mins to prepare, all straightforward again. Q & A with them, all good
- asked by HR my current and salary expecation...cue her jaw dropping
That kinda finished that..they wanted my experience and qualifcations on the cheap. Needless to say I now work with another company who pay me my proper commercial value...enough said. Hope that helps
Second interview,senior manager and HR lady. Asked to give a presentation with 30 mins to prepare, all straightforward again. Q & A with them, all good
- asked by HR my current and salary expecation...cue her jaw dropping
That kinda finished that..they wanted my experience and qualifcations on the cheap. Needless to say I now work with another company who pay me my proper commercial value...enough said. Hope that helps
- asked by HR my current and salary expecation...cue her jaw dropping
But people with specialist skills are wise to that these days!
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"Don't want criticism, don't cause it.." In principle I agree with that sentiment. The point is such delays would have been deemed unremarkable over much of the last few decades and anyone who'd spoken out as you have here would have been strung up.