UAE pulls out of Eurofighter deal...?
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Jim lad,
I think you could look at it from the other end of the scope. The UAE has shown that they aren't mugs willing to pay over the odds so that foreign suppliers can fund development of their own systems.
Jacko,
I think you are right, but there's a subtle difference between agreeing a spec and the supplier actually being able to deliver it.
Various,
Yes you are correct, it ain't all about the aeroplane. If the UAE wanted to defend a small nation from the air it would acquire double digit SAMs. To be a player it wants an expeditionary jet with a deep strike and tactical air to surface capability for counter armour and some littoral work. Those things may well be in the pipeline (or at least the sales brochure) for Typhoon, but nothing more and it has a reputation for not delivering.
One imagines that anyone who read Mragaret Hodge's report of May 11 would take quite some convincing.
But as we all agree - it ain't necessarily about the aeroplane.
I think you could look at it from the other end of the scope. The UAE has shown that they aren't mugs willing to pay over the odds so that foreign suppliers can fund development of their own systems.
Jacko,
I think you are right, but there's a subtle difference between agreeing a spec and the supplier actually being able to deliver it.
Various,
Yes you are correct, it ain't all about the aeroplane. If the UAE wanted to defend a small nation from the air it would acquire double digit SAMs. To be a player it wants an expeditionary jet with a deep strike and tactical air to surface capability for counter armour and some littoral work. Those things may well be in the pipeline (or at least the sales brochure) for Typhoon, but nothing more and it has a reputation for not delivering.
One imagines that anyone who read Mragaret Hodge's report of May 11 would take quite some convincing.
But as we all agree - it ain't necessarily about the aeroplane.
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No, I wasn't suggesting that but neither would I discount it. Along with two others, I started off the whole UAE (Abu Dhabi) Typhoon campaign way back in 1996. Now, almost 18 years later, I'm on the very outer fringe of knowledge. All that I'm certain of is that not a lot has changed over time - in either camp!
No, I wasn't suggesting that but neither would I discount it. Along with two others, I started off the whole UAE (Abu Dhabi) Typhoon campaign way back in 1996. Now, almost 18 years later, I'm on the very outer fringe of knowledge. All that I'm certain of is that not a lot has changed over time - in either camp!
Fair enough. I have a meeting scheduled at Warton in early Jan, the subject originally was to discuss some equipment differences for UAE. My meeting is still on so it will be interesting to hear what BAE S have to say.
The main reason they have backed off for now is there is no need after peace with Iran.
UAE Backs out of Typhoon Discussions | Defense News | defensenews.com
According to a UAE source close to the negotiations, the interim deal with Iran along with the direct diplomatic engagements the UAE has conducted have relaxed tensions between the gulf neighbors and contributed to the deal’s breakdown.
“At this point in time there is no need to acquire the weapons as our diplomatic efforts have succeeded,” the source said.
One industry source said the two sides had been unable to agree on price or close the gap on other aspects of the negotiations, including the industrial collaboration package.
“At this point in time there is no need to acquire the weapons as our diplomatic efforts have succeeded,” the source said.
One industry source said the two sides had been unable to agree on price or close the gap on other aspects of the negotiations, including the industrial collaboration package.
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PW wrote:
Maybe they really want F35 and believe the urgency has diminished so are prepared to risk waiting for it. Relations with Iran may continue to improve... or they may not. I'm sure they can't think the threat has gone away entirely.
The main reason they have backed off for now is there is no need after peace with Iran.
The fact we didn't win isn't a disaster; had we committed ourselves potentially to involvement in some future ME conflict those 5000 BAe jobs could have come at a high price!
