ACM Sir Stuart Peach CAS
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So all predominantly 'purple' in Air Rank, which makes him a non-runner for CAS unless all those young thrusters behind him fall under a London bus on the same day. Also, having only been appointed VCDS this year and at 57 years of age this will more than likely be his last tour.
Very nice guy if a bit hard-nosed on occasions (not with me but with those who didn't always cut the mustard)! Served together on GR1s at Bruggen and he was the man who organised a career extension past 55 for me when I worked for him at Waddo in the AWC.
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Peach served as Commander British Forces Italy from 1999 to 2000 and NATO Air Commander (Forward) in Kosovo in 2000, as a result of which he was appointed CBE. He was then appointed Commandant of the Air Warfare Centre and Assistant Chief of Staff Intelligence at RAF Strike Command, being promoted to Air Commodore in January 2001.
Promoted to Air Vice Marshal in 2003, Peach served as Director Intelligence Collection from July 2003 to March 2006. He was promoted to Air Marshal in 2006, and appointed Chief of Defence Intelligence, becoming Chief of Joint Operations in March 2009 having been knighted in that year's New Year Honours List.
Peach was promoted to Air Chief Marshal and appointed the first commander of the new Joint Forces Command in December 2011. He went on to become Vice-Chief of the Defence Staff in May 2013.
Promoted to Air Vice Marshal in 2003, Peach served as Director Intelligence Collection from July 2003 to March 2006. He was promoted to Air Marshal in 2006, and appointed Chief of Defence Intelligence, becoming Chief of Joint Operations in March 2009 having been knighted in that year's New Year Honours List.
Peach was promoted to Air Chief Marshal and appointed the first commander of the new Joint Forces Command in December 2011. He went on to become Vice-Chief of the Defence Staff in May 2013.
Very nice guy if a bit hard-nosed on occasions (not with me but with those who didn't always cut the mustard)! Served together on GR1s at Bruggen and he was the man who organised a career extension past 55 for me when I worked for him at Waddo in the AWC.
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Avtur,
Fair enough but if you go for the high-profile jobs it's inevitable. Besides, nothing on here is nearly as unpleasant as what he will encounter in his current and any future role...although most of it will be said behind his back rather than publicly...
Fair enough but if you go for the high-profile jobs it's inevitable. Besides, nothing on here is nearly as unpleasant as what he will encounter in his current and any future role...although most of it will be said behind his back rather than publicly...
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There are people who are paid to ensure he knows he is being talked about.
And there are others who are paid to ensure that much is known about 'old birds', et al, and their members.
And there are others who are paid to ensure that much is known about 'old birds', et al, and their members.
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I think the answer would be yes, he could be a good CAS.
However, as others have said, it's never going to happen. Absolutely not for the reason that he isn't a pilot. Timing, circumstances, age etc. all play a part and in his case, his route upwards has followed an alternative plan.
As a light blue operator, my money would very much be on Adm Z for CDS. Timing and credentials are spot on. If we want to play the future CAS game, the focus should be on the current batch of thrusting, popular, competent and politically adept 2*'s with a view of 5-6 years from now.
Current CAS had all those attributes and was looking very well placed during his reign as AOC 2 Gp. Fortunately, those of us who had worked for him over the years and predicted bigger things were proved right.
would ACM Peach make a good CAS
However, as others have said, it's never going to happen. Absolutely not for the reason that he isn't a pilot. Timing, circumstances, age etc. all play a part and in his case, his route upwards has followed an alternative plan.
As a light blue operator, my money would very much be on Adm Z for CDS. Timing and credentials are spot on. If we want to play the future CAS game, the focus should be on the current batch of thrusting, popular, competent and politically adept 2*'s with a view of 5-6 years from now.
Current CAS had all those attributes and was looking very well placed during his reign as AOC 2 Gp. Fortunately, those of us who had worked for him over the years and predicted bigger things were proved right.
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A long time ago! I recall an Air Chief Marshall declining a promotion to MRAF as he figured the index linked ACM pension would be better than the fixed one of an MRAF, allegedly!
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just a thought.
I seem to recall that some time ago First Sea Lord, CDS and VCDS all retire on full pay. Has probably changed though.
I seem to recall that some time ago First Sea Lord, CDS and VCDS all retire on full pay. Has probably changed though.
I seem to recall that some time ago First Sea Lord, CDS and VCDS all retire on full pay. Has probably changed though. -Cetep
I suspect that you may be thinking of the situation whereby CNS, CGS , and CAS used to be promoted to the relevant five star rank on their last day of service, and given that CDS was a five star rank until 1 April 97. On relinquishing the preceding four posts, five star officers could take a once only option to go for either half pay, or what was known as active list retired pay, which would almost certainly have been virtually the same rate initially. However, these rates would have diverged quite considerably thereafter due to index-linking for active list retired pay, especially since all the officers concerned would all have had getting on for 40 years' reckonable service. So, no contest really.
After 1 April 97, the "problem" would not have arisen, since the only promotion to five star rank since, of which I am aware, was for Lord Guthrie, who was promoted to Field Marshal in 2012, and who will almost certainly have been awarded a variation of active list retired pay.
A long time ago! I recall an Air Chief Marshal declining a promotion to MRAF as he figured the index linked ACM pension would be better than the fixed one of an MRAF, allegedly! - A2QFI
Given the above, I would tend to support the use of the word "allegedly" in this recollection, and would indeed add another A-word, namely "astonished" at anyone declining a fifth star!
Jack
I suspect that you may be thinking of the situation whereby CNS, CGS , and CAS used to be promoted to the relevant five star rank on their last day of service, and given that CDS was a five star rank until 1 April 97. On relinquishing the preceding four posts, five star officers could take a once only option to go for either half pay, or what was known as active list retired pay, which would almost certainly have been virtually the same rate initially. However, these rates would have diverged quite considerably thereafter due to index-linking for active list retired pay, especially since all the officers concerned would all have had getting on for 40 years' reckonable service. So, no contest really.
After 1 April 97, the "problem" would not have arisen, since the only promotion to five star rank since, of which I am aware, was for Lord Guthrie, who was promoted to Field Marshal in 2012, and who will almost certainly have been awarded a variation of active list retired pay.
A long time ago! I recall an Air Chief Marshal declining a promotion to MRAF as he figured the index linked ACM pension would be better than the fixed one of an MRAF, allegedly! - A2QFI
Given the above, I would tend to support the use of the word "allegedly" in this recollection, and would indeed add another A-word, namely "astonished" at anyone declining a fifth star!
Jack