Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

Possible help?

Old 23rd Nov 2013, 00:03
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hampshire
Age: 50
Posts: 28
Possible help?

I have fully restored a Harrier T4 ejection seat. It resides in my workshop. I am trying to find out about information regarding what clothing a typical Cold War Harrier pilot would wear whilst flying. I am trying to locate a complete set up for a manakin.
Also trying to locate a Sidewinder missile body section, I have the fins and nose cap, for another restoration project.
Please note this is simply personal projects, not being done for any financial reason.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
I used to be in the RAF if that helps!
Dave Haggas is offline  
Old 23rd Nov 2013, 02:11
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,897
Flaps over the boot laces!
Fox3WheresMyBanana is offline  
Old 23rd Nov 2013, 08:09
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Behind the wire.
Posts: 305
An air of self importance and arrogance.
High_Expect is offline  
Old 23rd Nov 2013, 09:19
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: London
Posts: 7,085
"Also trying to locate a Sidewinder missile body section, I have the fins and nose cap, for another restoration project"

put your affairs in order - even as we speak GCHQ will be on to MI5 - if it wasn't Saturday you'd already be in Belmarsh but with cut-backs they can't afford week-end working..............
Heathrow Harry is offline  
Old 23rd Nov 2013, 09:36
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Tarn et Garonne, Southwest France
Posts: 5,283
Haven't been in my attic recently, Dave, but it will be getting a clear out over the next few weeks, pre-move. I may well be able to help. Except, of course, the boots with flaps on.
Courtney Mil is offline  
Old 23rd Nov 2013, 09:57
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: England
Posts: 928
CO of 800 or 899 NAS look?



Good match for size of face and chin, some of them. Amazed one of them in particular ever squeezed into his seat, let alone took off.



Or this little tropical rig number they used to wear. (or would have liked to). Sorry mate, I'll get me surcoat.
Hangarshuffle is offline  
Old 23rd Nov 2013, 10:40
  #7 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hampshire
Age: 50
Posts: 28
Thanks

Well thank you chaps for the replies. I wasn't too sure of what to expect with my request here to be honest. You haven't disappointed!
Sidewinder components are readily available to joe public, you just need to look. I have a complete set of engineering drawings, so if I cannot find an original body, I can make one. So any help finding any section of the body would be great.
I look forward to the attic clear out Courtney Mil, if you need a hand, let me know....
Dave Haggas is offline  
Old 23rd Nov 2013, 11:26
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Lincs
Posts: 2,174
See from 1:08. See 10:16 for appraisal and sale. Sold to the Pawn Shop for $550.

She has more of them! Her Father put in a sealed bid during a government auction for shipping containers and found a number of the seeker heads inside.

TEEEJ is offline  
Old 23rd Nov 2013, 14:52
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: UK East Anglia
Age: 62
Posts: 666
Sidewinder

Dave,
Paxford Composites in Huntingdon may still have the moulds for the facsimiles they used to make. like the ones on the wing tips of the F5 outside Alconbury. They also used to make all the MB seats for simulators in GRP. Sorry I don't have any contacts there anymore. They still had all the moulds in 1998 when we were making Harrier ground training aids, (weapons loading and engine running)
dragartist is offline  
Old 23rd Nov 2013, 15:15
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: In the workshop, Prune-whispering.
Age: 67
Posts: 740
Got anything to swap for one?.....

Inert AIM-9 Sidewinder available for swap

Ping
PingDit is offline  
Old 23rd Nov 2013, 19:21
  #11 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hampshire
Age: 50
Posts: 28
Saw that one Ping as I've been on that site!
Thanks for the ref about the composites place. Funnily enough my business is in carbon fibre and other composites. It's my company and we specialise in repairs to the motorsport industry. So as stated earlier will make one if it comes to that but would prefer a real one to make look as new. A good friend is already in to making repro decals.....
Dave Haggas is offline  
Old 23rd Nov 2013, 20:58
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 103
The militaria antique shop next to the tea shop at Portsmouth Historic Dockyard had a Sidewinder for about £5000 when I was there a few weeks ago.
Fantastic Alladins cave if you have never visited.
SammySu is offline  
Old 9th Dec 2013, 20:52
  #13 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hampshire
Age: 50
Posts: 28
I would like a little more detailed info from you ex Cold War jet jocks?
I have located a source for an overall, life vest and Anti G leggings.
Could anyone provide any Details of what mark I should be looking for to dress a pilot mid eighties?
Any help very much appreciated.

Last edited by Dave Haggas; 9th Dec 2013 at 21:02.
Dave Haggas is offline  
Old 9th Dec 2013, 20:58
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Somewhere flat
Age: 64
Posts: 3,953
Could anyone provide any Details of what mark I should be looking for to dress a pilot mid eighties?
Eighty is probably a bit old for a Harrier pilot, although several did act as if they had dementia!
Wensleydale is offline  
Old 10th Dec 2013, 12:55
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Next door.
Posts: 654
Dave, I think you'd be looking for Mk.2 / 2A anti G trousers, a Mk3C helmet with a P or Q 12 mask and a Mk.27 life preserver (or earlier) with a high pressure PEC and man mounted oxygen regulator. Leg restraints were probably single ring or possibly later double ring types, like those used in Hawk/Tucano. I'm sure a more ancient squipper will be along presently to correct any errors.

Edit, sorry forgot the boots, lightweight brown jobs with big flaps over the laces..pukka bonna jet.
Stitchbitch is offline  
Old 10th Dec 2013, 20:45
  #16 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hampshire
Age: 50
Posts: 28
Thank you for all your replies. Stitch, all sounds fine so thank you so much. Ref the leg restraints it will be the double loop versions. I do have a pair of them but they have seen far better days....
Dave Haggas is offline  
Old 10th Dec 2013, 23:36
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,897
I have a Mk 14A flying suit from 1991, so you are looking for a Mk12 or 13.
Fox3WheresMyBanana is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.