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Old 7th Nov 2013, 12:43
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Warfighters

... it's a word that appears more and more often in the trade publications concerning avionics and defence electronics.

Warfighter? It sounds more like an X-Box character out of "Call of Duty" rather than a professional soldier, sailor or airman. What's that all about?
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It's an Americanisation wordwise.....

.....which, regrettably, appears to have crossed the Pond
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It's similar to the mejia habit of now calling Members of Parliament "law makers".
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I thought they were Law Givers?

Or is that the European Commission?
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The term “warfighter” appears to be originally a US Department of Defense term used by analysts when discussing or analyzing warfighters (and how to best train them, equip them, support them, deploy them, etc.).

The term has utility because a) it includes the members of every branch of the armed forces, including soldiers, marines, sailors, and airmen, b) it distinguishes between those who fight in a war and those in a support capacity, and c) it is gender neutral. Unfortunately, as with many words in language, its use has been “expanded” and used in a variety of ways not associated with the original meaning.
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aah, semantic b@@ll@cks again
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I thought they were Law Givers?
... and some of them (allegedly) Law Breakers!
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It's similar to the mejia habit of now calling Members of Parliament "law makers".
And I thought they were just "Conniving-self-interested-unscrupulous-gas-bags"?
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Americanisation wordwise.....

Beags ,from you of all people!!!!

Along with..

"Hero",

"Duty of Care",

"In harm's way"

"On my watch"

and all the other "fluffy" cross-Atlantic aphorisms which have crept in to our language in recent times.
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Haraka, you obviously missed the intended irony.....
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If the term 'warfighter' is intended to describe personnel actually fighting a war, then, for the purpose of clarification of who's doing what, I think it's 'fit for purpose.
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It's clearly analogous with 'firefighters'...

...also postfighters, binfighters and Bill and Ben the flowerpotfighters.

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Warfighter is used too widely IMHO, and often includes:
Medics
Drivers
Peace keeping troops
Admin personnel (from themselves)

Firefighter is just as daft. Not too much fighting when doing site visits, checking hydrants or fitting smoke alarms.
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'Warfighter' is not a useful word, in my opinion. Where do you draw the line between 'warfighter' and 'non-warfighter'? Chinook crews? C17 crews? Voyager crews? Engineers? Fighter controllers (sorry, ABMs)? Loggies? Adminers? Wherever you draw the line, it's just as divisive as 'aircrew' vs 'blunties' - so in the modern, inclusively-minded, fluffy way, most commanders seem to describe all their personnel as 'warfighters'. Might as well just call them 'military personnel' in good old plain English.
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Originally Posted by barnstormer1968
Warfighter is used too widely IMHO, and often includes:


Firefighter is just as daft. Not too much fighting when doing site visits, checking hydrants or fitting smoke alarms.
Don't be to hasty there you can fight fires in many ways - checking hydrants and fitting smoke alarms is a pre-emptive attack - a kinda denial of service


What about the foo fighters
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Old 7th Nov 2013, 21:51
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Warfighter is used too widely IMHO, and often includes:
Medics
Drivers
Peace keeping troops
Plenty of medics, drivers and peace keeping troops have been in the thick of exchanging rounds with bad guys in the last decade in Afghanistan (some quite famously winning gallantry medals), so I have no problem with them being labelled warfighters. I prefer the term serviceman / servicewoman seeing as most service people are part of fighting wars in some way.

Clearly, the degree will differ, but there is an expectation there that all service people will do their bit in fighting wars*.

*Except adminers, obviously.
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Sorry, but that just doesn't work out.
If it did then peace keepers would be war fighters as they are doing something actively, just like fire fighters doing a site check to avoid a fire breaking out later.

Laar.

While I agree with what you say, there are also medics and drivers stationed in Bulford and Tidworth tonight.............perhaps warfighter applies to a time and place rather than a generic coverall term
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Old 7th Nov 2013, 22:04
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And there are highly trained young paratroopers based in Colchester who haven't been near a war zone in their life, but they might be next week. Do they become warfighters next week when they get there or before?

Don't be so bloody silly, of course they're warfighters. As I say, I don't like the phrase but your example is daft.
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Haraka, you obviously missed the intended irony.....

Just testing......
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If warfighter sets you off, you might be wound a little too tight.

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