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GR4 looses half a wing tank arriving at Malta show

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Old 28th Sep 2013, 22:15
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GR4 looses half a wing tank arriving at Malta show

Just seen this vid on YouTube ....
Any ideas as to why ? Did the tail plane hit?

Malta International Airshow 2013 Arrivals - YouTube
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At 15:30 it happens.
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I would imagine that something would have been felt through the airframe when the rear third of a tank departs (apart from part of the CWP lighting up perhaps) so I wonder how close the crew were to flying out to sea and jettisoning the stores?

I'd be interested in the forthcoming speculation from those with genuine Tornado operating experience.
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This old thread might be of relevance: http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...uel-tanks.html

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These aren't the proper big tanks though, Beags, are they?
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Not going to speculate.
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Aft section of port tank by the looks of it ...

Glad the crew were OK.

Didn't see any immediately obvious Fire Rescue backup ?
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Seen that happen before when the SPS door comes off
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Probably due to it being "loose" then!
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Just the tank?

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The LH SPS door is missing in this incident also.
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Poor old Delta, took a Beltah, should have stayed in the Effin Shelter...

good old XV GR1 days....

However looking at the damage to the taileron, [??????] good old fin bringing the boys home again ------

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looks like luck and skill prevented a MB let down
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I've got a nagging memory of the same thing happening on a 1500L tank where the front nose cone came off. Does anyone else remember this?

Also, the 1500L tanks are not quite the work of art that the 2250L tanks are. So one failing like this doesn't surprise me some 30+ years into service.

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Looks like something happened at 16.16 and the tank broke up when the G was applied on the break!
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Isn't that just a video glitch?

Another pic here:

View topic - Malta Yemen AF etc
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The one I recall was in low level air combat training. We were pretty certain it was not left "loose", you could see witness marks where the door dragged out. ISTR it wasn't the first occurence
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Tornado looses part of its external Tank


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Those are little jugs 1500L and are mainly asbestos iirc? The big jugs are 2250L and aluminium? Also the big jugs have 4 'fins' on the rear of each tank.
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Aren't the small tanks Phenolic Resin reinforced with Asbestos fibre?
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