Threat to Akrotiri..?
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Why the
I said before that Putin has Obama in a Squirrel grip and
all he has to do is squeeze which he is now doing.
As far as I am concerned, Putin should make Obama look
like the biggest dick in US Presidential History and made
to pay for having such a big mouth.
Why the
I said before that Putin has Obama in a Squirrel grip and
all he has to do is squeeze which he is now doing.
As far as I am concerned, Putin should make Obama look
like the biggest dick in US Presidential History and made
to pay for having such a big mouth.
The use of Cypriot facilities has been in discussion for a while now. The Cypriots also have similar agreements with France for the use of Paphos airport. The news of Russian military using Cypriot facilities normally gets bent out of shape.
Some quotes from the Cypriot Defence Minister back in June.
Cyprus considering Russian use of Limassol port, Paphos airbase - UPI.com
The Russian Navy already uses Cypriot ports for refuelling. The agreement to use Paphos will be similiar to the current agreement with France to allow military tranport flights. France already uses Paphos as a logistics hub and for emergency evacuation of citizens in the region. Somehow I can't see Cyprus allowing Russia to use Paphos for anything other than military transport flights similar to the French agreement.
Some quotes from the Cypriot Defence Minister back in June.
Cypriot Defense Minister Fotis Fotiu told the Nicosia daily Fileleftheros the country was "studying the possibility of providing in certain cases" the use of the Andreas Papandreou Air Force Base for Russian military aircraft.
Asked if use of the Paphos airbase will be granted only to Russia or other countries as well, the defense chief noted the only other agreement for Andreas Papandreou is with France, which dates to 2007.
...it is no different than services other countries provide for foreign armed forces..... But what I want to make clear is that no discussion about a permanent base in Cyprus for Russia ...
Asked if use of the Paphos airbase will be granted only to Russia or other countries as well, the defense chief noted the only other agreement for Andreas Papandreou is with France, which dates to 2007.
...it is no different than services other countries provide for foreign armed forces..... But what I want to make clear is that no discussion about a permanent base in Cyprus for Russia ...
The Russian Navy already uses Cypriot ports for refuelling. The agreement to use Paphos will be similiar to the current agreement with France to allow military tranport flights. France already uses Paphos as a logistics hub and for emergency evacuation of citizens in the region. Somehow I can't see Cyprus allowing Russia to use Paphos for anything other than military transport flights similar to the French agreement.
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As far as I am concerned, Putin should make Obama look
like the biggest dick in US Presidential History
like the biggest dick in US Presidential History
Some stiff competition in that field, I think.
Ask Monica perhaps?
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I'm sure Cyprus don't care who uses it, as long as they are paying.
Theres a lot of money to be made from the war business. When they say Afghanistan costs $ billons per day, It always made me wonder who was the receiving end of the cashflow.
Theres a lot of money to be made from the war business. When they say Afghanistan costs $ billons per day, It always made me wonder who was the receiving end of the cashflow.
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Chilling details of the huge arsenal of chemical weapons arsenal stockpiled by Syria were revealed tonight by French spies | Mail Online
300 mile range. Puts Akkers well in range.
?We will not be used as a launching pad for Syria attack? | Cyprus Mail
300 mile range. Puts Akkers well in range.
?We will not be used as a launching pad for Syria attack? | Cyprus Mail
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Curious. Now when you chaps get on your high horse about the US! Remember that (allegedly) the UK was selling Assad chemicals that had potential use in CW.
I refer to my post #2 from a few days ago, and respectfully suggest it may not have been such a silly question. I suspect this Assad bloke is not like Saddam or Gaddafi and may well react to being attacked by hitting anything and everything he is capable of. Meanwhile I reckon there are targets to his south that might also prove "irresistible".
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Meanwhile I reckon there are targets to his south
that might also prove "irresistible".
South or South east ?
What were you thinking ?
Meanwhile I reckon there are targets to his south
that might also prove "irresistible".
South or South east ?
What were you thinking ?
500N,
Not to beat about the bush Israel would seem logical (south I believe). It would really kick off some aggro. Lets face it, I doubt he believes he could beat the US in a straight fight, but why would he fight straight. And if he has the attitude, "I won t go as easily as Saddam or Gaddafi, I'll take as many as I can with me", who knows. I still believe though that Akrotiri would at least present a static target if he's attacked. Are you thinking Jordan (South east) ?
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Not to beat about the bush Israel would seem logical (south I believe). It would really kick off some aggro. Lets face it, I doubt he believes he could beat the US in a straight fight, but why would he fight straight. And if he has the attitude, "I won t go as easily as Saddam or Gaddafi, I'll take as many as I can with me", who knows. I still believe though that Akrotiri would at least present a static target if he's attacked. Are you thinking Jordan (South east) ?
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"Are you thinking Jordan (South east) ?"
No, I was thinking of US assets in the Gulf States.
I didn't think of Israel as I just very much doubt that he would attack Israel
just because the US fired a few missiles at him.
1. If that was the case, why didn't he attack Israel when they dropped bombs
on the Nuclear Reactor ?
2. Israel has whipped his arse before and in all likelihood would do it again.
Israel would have nothing to lose if Syria attacked it and they have everything they need to turn Syria and it's military into a raging fireball with acceptable losses.
Do you really think he'd attack Israel knowing what he is likely to
cop back ?
He's already fighting a civil war, I doubt he wants a full blown war
with a neighbour as well.
"Are you thinking Jordan (South east) ?"
No, I was thinking of US assets in the Gulf States.
I didn't think of Israel as I just very much doubt that he would attack Israel
just because the US fired a few missiles at him.
1. If that was the case, why didn't he attack Israel when they dropped bombs
on the Nuclear Reactor ?
2. Israel has whipped his arse before and in all likelihood would do it again.
Israel would have nothing to lose if Syria attacked it and they have everything they need to turn Syria and it's military into a raging fireball with acceptable losses.
Do you really think he'd attack Israel knowing what he is likely to
cop back ?
He's already fighting a civil war, I doubt he wants a full blown war
with a neighbour as well.
uffington,
Good point well made, I'm no navigator so accept your directions.
500N,
My point with regard to Israel relates to seeing the burning oil wells in Kuwait, every day for several weeks, as we ran our routes in to Kuwait. Saddam certainly had a "scorched earth" policy that I believe Assad may well share. Those types do tend to follow a particular mindset. I'm not too sure about Israel bombing Syrian Nuclear reactors, they certainly bombed the Iraqi facility at 'Osirak' ? I think in 1981. ISTR an Israeli raid on a facility in 2007 in Syria, that was rumoured to be a nuclear site, but the Israelis claimed it was a chemical site, back to square one maybe ? Anyway, I'm not claiming any vast strategic or tactical military knowledge. I know what I fear may happen, and wonder how its contained to a couple of air strikes.
Smudge
Good point well made, I'm no navigator so accept your directions.
500N,
My point with regard to Israel relates to seeing the burning oil wells in Kuwait, every day for several weeks, as we ran our routes in to Kuwait. Saddam certainly had a "scorched earth" policy that I believe Assad may well share. Those types do tend to follow a particular mindset. I'm not too sure about Israel bombing Syrian Nuclear reactors, they certainly bombed the Iraqi facility at 'Osirak' ? I think in 1981. ISTR an Israeli raid on a facility in 2007 in Syria, that was rumoured to be a nuclear site, but the Israelis claimed it was a chemical site, back to square one maybe ? Anyway, I'm not claiming any vast strategic or tactical military knowledge. I know what I fear may happen, and wonder how its contained to a couple of air strikes.
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Forget whether it was Chemical or Nuclear, the fact is Israel flew into
a well defended country, bombed an air defence facility and the plant
and flew out again without one aircraft being lost. In addition, they
inserted Commandos on the ground before the raid and extracted them
afterwards.
IMHO, no mean feat.
Forget whether it was Chemical or Nuclear, the fact is Israel flew into
a well defended country, bombed an air defence facility and the plant
and flew out again without one aircraft being lost. In addition, they
inserted Commandos on the ground before the raid and extracted them
afterwards.
IMHO, no mean feat.
