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Old 30th Aug 2013, 16:30
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"Bruce Barrymore Halpenny-British military historian and Author, served Royal Air Force Police"

There seems to be some doubt as to the validity of this gentleman's duties - now I'm not going as far as to suggest 'Walting', but his own descriptions of what he did as a National Serviceman and after seem to be a little 'embellished'?

I may be wrong, and apologise profusely if I am, but if anyone has any further information I would be most interested.
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Old 31st Aug 2013, 11:03
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Bruce Barrymore Halpenny-British military historian and Author
Living as I do in a remote southern colony, I hadn't hear of this guy, so I 'did a Google' and found his Wiki page.

Yes his CV does raise questions. But is he simply doing some buttering up to sell books?

As to him being on 'Special Duties', this raises a question as to just what did the phrase mean?

When I was posted to the RAF Liaison Party Istres in 1957, I was on 'Special Duties'. There was absolutely no hint that it was anything cloak & dagger. It was because of some diplomatic reason, and us being in France. I understood that the term was also applied to all Air Attache's and their staff.

In another life, while on a Valiant Squadron, the RAFP dog handlers that guided our dispersal's at night were not seen as any sort of James Bond type.
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Old 31st Aug 2013, 11:50
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Special duties in his case was SD814, nuclear security, not particularly special but I guess he's not the first author to "sex up" a relatively vanilla career, let's face it they all do it to an extent and he's hardly claiming to be the second man on the balcony. Certainly not a walt.
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Hilary Devey

She served for a short time in the Women's Royal Air Force in air traffic control and supply accounts and was stationed at RAF Brize Norton.
A strange career move

Any info on how she would achieve that?
Maybe an airwoman in TG 9 - AATC - then commissioned (briefly) as a stacker? Wiki says she left WRAF "before she was 20". Or given the timescale - early 70s? - did we then still have Local Service Airwomen who might have done a number of clerical/admin tasks??
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More rugby players - John Orwin captained England. Billy Steele played for Scotland.
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Bob Monkhouse - who, because he found a Sqn Ldr fiddling with a Cpl, agreed a posting to CME (London) where he could engage more interest in Variety Acts.
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Bob Monkhouse - who, because he found a Sqn Ldr fiddling with a Cpl
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As to him being on 'Special Duties', this raises a question as to just what did the phrase mean?
I was bored at a particular posting and at the time in SRO's there were always entries asking for volunteers for 'Special Duties'.

I thought why not, went to see the chief clerk and his first question was 'Are you married?'

I said yes and he said close the door on the way out.

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Special duties has always been a cover-all euphemism, the ones you enquired about were likely covert surveillance duties in NI, they were frequently advertised in SROs.
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Un was as well as in Cyprus I believe
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Special duties has always been a cover-all euphemism, the ones you enquired about were likely covert surveillance duties in NI, they were frequently advertised in SROs.
Didn't want to mention that but being as you have; yes it was.
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Jeff Young. A school teacher who played Rugby for Wales & Lions in the late 60s & early 70s. He then joined the RAF Education Branch and continued in the game, coaching RAF and Inter-Services teams. After leaving the RAF he did some quite important work for Welsh Rugby and others. Sadly died some years ago after a long illness, aged about 60.
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Special duties has always been a cover-all euphemism
I believe they also included some of the other Int disciplines e.g. Photo Interpreter back in the day when the Admin Branch did a lot of them rather than having a specific Int Branch

and he's hardly claiming to be the second man on the balcony
I've always wondered how big a balcony the Iranian Embassy actually had. If everyone who claims to have been there actually was there, then frankly I think the balcony on its own would have been big enough to warrant its own postcode!

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he found a Sqn Ldr fiddling with a Cpl
At an ATC party, there I was chatting to an eminently 'fiddleable' Cpl when Mrs Bas noticed and came over to say "Hello!!" How do they know?
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At an ATC party, there I was chatting to an eminently 'fiddleable' Cpl when Mrs Bas noticed and came over to say "Hello!!" How do they know?
It's not only the military that seem to have a knack for Special Duties. Wives, girlfriends and sometimes eve loved ones wrote the book on it - that my dear Bas is how they know
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Lord Paddy Ashdown. Lib dem politician

Born in New Delhi in British India, to a family of soldiers and colonial administrators who spent their lives in India. His mother was a QA nurse. Ashdown's father, John William Richard Durham Ashdown, was an Indian Army officer in the 14th Punjab Regiment and the Indian Army Service Corps and in 1944 attained the rank of T/Lt.Col.

Paddy Ashdown joined the Royal Marines in 1959, serving until 1972, retiring with the rank of Captain. He served in Borneo during the Indonesia–Malaysia confrontation and the Persian Gulf before training as a Swimmer Canoeist in 1965, after which he joined the elite Special Boat Section (which became the Special Boat Service in the 1980s) and commanded a Section in the Far East. He then went to Hong Kong in 1967 to undertake a full-time interpreter's course in Chinese, and returned to Britain in 1970 when he was given command of a Commando Company in Belfast.

Ashdown left the Marines to join the Secret Intelligence Service (SIS or MI6).

Ashdown decided to enter politics due to living during the era of two general elections in one year and the Three-Day Week.
I emailed Lord Ashdown earlier this week in support of his comments regarding the failed Commons vote on Syria. He responded the same day from his home in Somerset. A true gent and a man who has walked the walk.

Incidentally, Airborne Aircrew described him as 'weak minded and weak willed'.
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John Haynes of Haynes manuals wrote the first two of his books whilst a national serviceman in the RAF.
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Special Duties

The Sergeant DI when I was in Boy Entrants used to deal out 'Special Duties'. In my case it was always 2 hours every night for a week in the Tin Room !


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Hughie Greene, (qv) was also the first Director of the Psywar Department in Colonial Malaya c 1952 - and jolly effective he was, too. He understood the need for psyops material to be targetted at the individual and based on his (Maselow hierachy) needs. Hughie Greene used local ethnic chinese to devise the material - indeed, used former insurgents - and then distributed the material by a variety of elderly transport aircraft, as well as Austers and Harvards. Thousands of 'bandits' surrendered as a result of the well-coordinated psyops campaign - much more cost effective than bombing the sh!t out of the nearly-impenetrable jungle!

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