Wikiposts
Search
Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

Loft attack

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12th Aug 2013, 06:49
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: the far south
Posts: 608
Likes: 0
Received 34 Likes on 13 Posts
Loft attack

I was wondering if Loft attacks and its various offshoots are still practiced these days?

In fact are any dumb bomb delivery profiles still practiced these days - I have never seen a photo of a Typhoon with a dumb bomb and not one on a Tornado for a long time.
typerated is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2013, 07:19
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Somewhere flat
Age: 68
Posts: 5,555
Likes: 0
Received 42 Likes on 29 Posts
I've not heard of any insurgents hiding in attics these days, but in case they do.....
Wensleydale is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2013, 07:26
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 2,164
Received 46 Likes on 22 Posts
Tornado can still do LOFT (well actually it is actually a TOSS attack, but they didn't write that on the buttons).

I've seen a KFF attached to a Typhoon a while back and it was not there when he came back. I've no idea what delivery modes they have cleared now.
Just This Once... is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2013, 07:28
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 2,164
Received 46 Likes on 22 Posts
Typhoon with a brace of blue bombs:

Just This Once... is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2013, 07:38
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 2,164
Received 46 Likes on 22 Posts
Back in the day when 12 dumb bombs ruled and the enemy was just a quick dash next door:

Just This Once... is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2013, 07:45
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 2,164
Received 46 Likes on 22 Posts
Or for really dumb weapons where you may wish to exit at really high speed:



Just This Once... is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2013, 07:46
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: the earth
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Used to be fairly SOP to Loft PWIV on the GR9. 4 wpns per jet in a 4 ship gave you 16 DPI's (8 if you doubled up).
AutoBit is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2013, 08:04
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: down south
Age: 77
Posts: 13,226
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Nothing dumb about the WE177.

Great for a suntan.
Lightning Mate is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2013, 08:12
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 2,164
Received 46 Likes on 22 Posts
But you had to point your mirrors away before release; never easy for an ex-Lightning mate.

Just This Once... is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2013, 08:42
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: England
Posts: 436
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Didn't you keep the eye patch from the Jag go-pack?
Capt Scribble is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2013, 11:43
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Doncaster
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hi the Tornado above was either prototype P-03 or P-15, the orange pods on the outbound pylons are FTI high speed camera pods to record the bomb release footage. And as you can also see the bombs are carried on twin store carriers fitted to the inboard and shoulder pylons.

The photo may have been taken either taking off from Warton or Boscomb in the mid 80's...

LOFT attach was used for both iron bombs and special weapon release profiles either low or medium release.
zero1 is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2013, 12:14
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm pretty sure that was the fit on the 1:72 Airfix Tornado GR1 - a fit I'd never actually seen in reality or in any photos until now! Only the weapons fit colour scheme was different, and I'm fairly sure the camera pods were fuel tanks of the same shape on the model.

I'll get my coat.
Postman Plod is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2013, 14:37
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Near the coast
Posts: 2,365
Received 512 Likes on 144 Posts
Loft attack

Toss/Loft (call it what you will) is still very relevant. Just not with dumb munitions any more. It is the low level delivery method of choice at TW nowadays simulating PW4 attacks.
How times have changed.
BV
Bob Viking is online now  
Old 12th Aug 2013, 14:39
  #14 (permalink)  
AR1
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Nottinghamshire
Age: 63
Posts: 710
Received 4 Likes on 1 Post
I would have thought that it was the ONLY LL delivery method for an LGB!
AR1 is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2013, 15:07
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Near the coast
Posts: 2,365
Received 512 Likes on 144 Posts
Loft attack

Alright smart arse. Read my post properly and you'll realise that's not what I implied.
BV
Bob Viking is online now  
Old 12th Aug 2013, 16:49
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Outbound
Posts: 581
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
AR1, you could do low altitude level releases with PW3... some bombs are smart enough to sort it out!
5 Forward 6 Back is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2013, 18:54
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Mold
Posts: 164
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
The Puma was quite adept at the Loft Attack, ISTR a puma loadpole was firmly embedded in someones loft in Guildford circa '78/'79.
xenolith is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2013, 19:46
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: miles from anywhere
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
The first rule of fight club, is that you don't talk about fight club..
Moi/ is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2013, 20:32
  #19 (permalink)  
AR1
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Nottinghamshire
Age: 63
Posts: 710
Received 4 Likes on 1 Post
Bob to get called a smart arse in this company is a badge I'll wear with pride.
AR1 is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2013, 20:38
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Wherever it is this month
Posts: 1,784
Received 75 Likes on 34 Posts
Paveway IV can be released from level, loft or toss profiles at low level. All currently practised by the Tornado force.

I recall days when a 4-ship might be tasked to deliver 32 bombs against one aiming point. Now it might be 20 bombs against 20 aiming points!
Easy Street is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.