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Of course VALENTINA TERECHKOVA was the first woman in Space. I was not clear enough. There is an old debate about Europe definitions.
- Having European culture and history
- Living East or West from Oural in the Continent Europe-Asia
- Being member from European Union(CECA, Rome Treaty, EU at 6, 12, 15, 27, 28, etc
- Being member of eurozone
- Being member of European Space Agency
- Being member of ICAO European Region
- Being member of OMS European Region
- Being member of UNO European Region,
When it was said during until vey recent years , here in France that Claudie André-Deshayes-Haigneré was the first "european female astronaut" another debate came on the table too about private finance.
Iself mentioned HELEN SHARMAN as it was question of women in British Airspace (she was not in the RAF and ATA pilots were not in the RAF but Sharman went in Space in the same period where first Fighter pilots were accepted in the RAF.
A part of the WWII sovietic female pilots were bombing during the night like NADEZHDA POPOVA, other were fighter pilots during the day (like Lydia LITVAK. When Svetlana SAVITSKAIA went in Space she had first been accepted as "free" student in the test pilot school because her father was a Marechal... But Savitskaia was the best ßtudent, so finaly she was accepted as test pilot at same level as the other students! She was also world recordwoman in freefall for highest altitude. SAVITSKAIA went in space because USA launched their first female astronaut Sally Ride.
The all women pilots regiments/group during WWII in sovietic Union has no equivalent in the history of women out and in airspace in the world. Courage and efficiency every day every night... Wonderful story winning against Nazism.
Of course VALENTINA TERECHKOVA was the first woman in Space. I was not clear enough. There is an old debate about Europe definitions.
- Having European culture and history
- Living East or West from Oural in the Continent Europe-Asia
- Being member from European Union(CECA, Rome Treaty, EU at 6, 12, 15, 27, 28, etc
- Being member of eurozone
- Being member of European Space Agency
- Being member of ICAO European Region
- Being member of OMS European Region
- Being member of UNO European Region,
When it was said during until vey recent years , here in France that Claudie André-Deshayes-Haigneré was the first "european female astronaut" another debate came on the table too about private finance.
Iself mentioned HELEN SHARMAN as it was question of women in British Airspace (she was not in the RAF and ATA pilots were not in the RAF but Sharman went in Space in the same period where first Fighter pilots were accepted in the RAF.
A part of the WWII sovietic female pilots were bombing during the night like NADEZHDA POPOVA, other were fighter pilots during the day (like Lydia LITVAK. When Svetlana SAVITSKAIA went in Space she had first been accepted as "free" student in the test pilot school because her father was a Marechal... But Savitskaia was the best ßtudent, so finaly she was accepted as test pilot at same level as the other students! She was also world recordwoman in freefall for highest altitude. SAVITSKAIA went in space because USA launched their first female astronaut Sally Ride.
The all women pilots regiments/group during WWII in sovietic Union has no equivalent in the history of women out and in airspace in the world. Courage and efficiency every day every night... Wonderful story winning against Nazism.
SAVITSKAIA went in space because USA launched their first female astronaut Sally Ride.
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roulishollandais - You are right about Valentina Tereschkova being a European. I studied Russian in Yaroslavl, not far from her home village.
On occasion I would make some remark about how things were done "in Europe" (ie in Western Europe) and was always politely reminded that the part of Russia I was staying in (well West of the Urals) was also in Europe.
Mind you, half the British contributors to PPRuNe don't even consider the UK to be part of Europe
On occasion I would make some remark about how things were done "in Europe" (ie in Western Europe) and was always politely reminded that the part of Russia I was staying in (well West of the Urals) was also in Europe.
Mind you, half the British contributors to PPRuNe don't even consider the UK to be part of Europe
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I don't want to refer to the arianist name of Ariane the "european" rocket : Definition of Europe is hidden and will stay matter of debate. States are well defined and trusting in Peace so I only want to refer to legal nationalities.
At the time of the first launches of Svetlana Savitskaia and Sally Ride USA and URSS were already working and flying together in Space, despite cold war and military competition.
They both discovered that male astronauts teams were improved if women were added. Despite Russia no more wanted to send a woman after Valentina Terechkova, the US politic of quota against all discriminations was a positive action. The time of Jerry Cobb and Mrs Vitality for the Mercury project was far away. So US decision to send Sally Ride changed URSS choice who knew that Savitskaia was an excellent choice if already women had to be sent. Valentina Terechkova had been sent around the country to deliver a political message and had been put aside despite her want to fly again... Finaly Russia sent Svetlana Savitskaia earlier than USA with Sally Ride. But the difference of schedule was not significative of the not independant decision to launch female astronauts/cosmonauts.
The high psychological difficulty of long multicrew missions in Space decided these good choices.
roulishollandais
At the time of the first launches of Svetlana Savitskaia and Sally Ride USA and URSS were already working and flying together in Space, despite cold war and military competition.
They both discovered that male astronauts teams were improved if women were added. Despite Russia no more wanted to send a woman after Valentina Terechkova, the US politic of quota against all discriminations was a positive action. The time of Jerry Cobb and Mrs Vitality for the Mercury project was far away. So US decision to send Sally Ride changed URSS choice who knew that Savitskaia was an excellent choice if already women had to be sent. Valentina Terechkova had been sent around the country to deliver a political message and had been put aside despite her want to fly again... Finaly Russia sent Svetlana Savitskaia earlier than USA with Sally Ride. But the difference of schedule was not significative of the not independant decision to launch female astronauts/cosmonauts.
The high psychological difficulty of long multicrew missions in Space decided these good choices.
roulishollandais
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