Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

New MPA?

Old 7th Jul 2013, 14:39
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: uk
Posts: 788
Received 32 Likes on 10 Posts
New MPA?

The mad MOD try out new UAV MPA for ASW and SAR. May buy ten but not for RAF use due £££. Low pay men get job. M'OL new CAS?

Those of you who laughed at my pathetic attempts to post pictures of Greek Tiger Moths, can have another laugh. I still haven't got the hang of it, so perhaps some kind soul will sort it.

This UAV has been seen undergoing test flights from a secret base in Northamptonshire. The emblem on the nose suggests that the uncrew who unman this unmanned aircraft have been brought in from Eastern Europe, a cost saving measure copied from O'Leary of Ryanair.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL145.../407155036.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL145.../407155038.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL145.../407155039.jpg
oxenos is offline  
Old 7th Jul 2013, 17:53
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Well, Lincolnshire
Age: 69
Posts: 1,101
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Why does it look like a Wellington with ASW kit and D-Day recognition markings?

I'm only asking.
taxydual is offline  
Old 7th Jul 2013, 18:15
  #3 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: uk
Posts: 788
Received 32 Likes on 10 Posts
Retro design - it's all the rage. And ASW aircraft are meant to have ASW kit.

Last edited by oxenos; 7th Jul 2013 at 18:18.
oxenos is offline  
Old 7th Jul 2013, 18:19
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Well, Lincolnshire
Age: 69
Posts: 1,101
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Every day's a school day.
taxydual is offline  
Old 7th Jul 2013, 20:22
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 4,333
Received 80 Likes on 32 Posts
It's a radio controlled scale model...
Lima Juliet is offline  
Old 7th Jul 2013, 21:15
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Somewhere flat
Age: 68
Posts: 5,536
Likes: 0
Received 40 Likes on 27 Posts
My mum told me that you need Wellingtons if you play near water.
Wensleydale is offline  
Old 7th Jul 2013, 22:25
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: The Whyte House
Age: 95
Posts: 1,966
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Polish Air Force markings of over 20 years ago. Interesting.
Willard Whyte is offline  
Old 8th Jul 2013, 07:08
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: East Sussex UK
Age: 66
Posts: 6,995
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Do you get French Fries with it ? That's "chips" to anyone north of the Watford Gap


Last edited by CoffmanStarter; 8th Jul 2013 at 15:03.
CoffmanStarter is offline  
Old 8th Jul 2013, 07:21
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: The Whyte House
Age: 95
Posts: 1,966
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Freedom Fries.
Willard Whyte is offline  
Old 9th Jul 2013, 23:58
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: The US of A, and sometimes Bonnie Scotland
Posts: 549
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Aviation Today :: Navy's P-8 Poseidon Ready for Fleet Introduction

Just sayin'.......
betty swallox is offline  
Old 10th Jul 2013, 06:12
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Australia
Age: 87
Posts: 56
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Looks good, looks right.

And as they say: "Anything that looks right . . . . . . . ."

JohnB
John Botwood is offline  
Old 10th Jul 2013, 13:40
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lancashire
Age: 71
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
P8 Poseidon

A good PR story..............not a lot about endurance and range, particularly at low level, a must for a Maritime Patrol Aircraft.
C di E is offline  
Old 10th Jul 2013, 19:46
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: UK/ USA
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
JB,

Unfortunately looks are not important. It's military capability. Poor performance at low level has forced the P8 to adopt some unproven technology which may mean it is compromised in blue water ASW. Sensor requirements need to be explored fully and use cases developed to ensure the platform can match the required range and endurance requirements when conducting real operations.
Jet In Vitro is offline  
Old 10th Jul 2013, 20:10
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: East Anglia
Posts: 1,873
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Here it is being prepared for another sortie in the hands of 304 Sqn:
Kitbag is offline  
Old 10th Jul 2013, 20:43
  #15 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: uk
Posts: 788
Received 32 Likes on 10 Posts
"Anything that looks right"

Were you referring to the P-8 or the UAV ,John?

Sources that I dare not name tell me that the UAV project is in fact being jointly funded by the MOD, the British Waterways Board and the Ministry of Ag. and Fisheries.
It seems that stretches of the Grand Union Canal and the Oxford Canal, both of which pass close to the trials airfield, are heavily infested with non-native species of small submarine. (known as U-boats). Like the New York alligators, they have probably been released by owners who can no longer afford to maintain them,and are now breeding.
They burrow into the canal banks to create nests ( known as pens ) and there are concerns that the banks will collapse, draining the canals and flooding the surrounding fields.

On the other hand,Leon may have got it right.

What is indisputable is that until the Coventry Shackleton is ready to fly, this UAV is the ONLY MPA FLYING IN THE WHOLE OF THE U.K.

Sad isn't it?
oxenos is offline  
Old 10th Jul 2013, 21:25
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Posts: 26,783
Received 257 Likes on 103 Posts
What is indisputable is that until the Coventry Shackleton is ready to fly, this UAV is the ONLY MPA FLYING IN THE WHOLE OF THE U.K.
Au contraire - see Intro - The Catalina Society - PBY Consolidated Catalina Aircraft - Home of Plane Sailing
BEagle is offline  
Old 10th Jul 2013, 21:28
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: 23, Railway Cuttings, East Cheam
Age: 68
Posts: 3,115
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Look a lot nicer if they filed down all of those sticky out bits. Probably add 20kts too.
thing is offline  
Old 10th Jul 2013, 22:12
  #18 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: uk
Posts: 788
Received 32 Likes on 10 Posts
Thanks, BEagle, I stand corrected.

So our inventory consists of one Catalina, a Shackleton undergoing (very) major refit, and a Wellington with a PLE of 9 1/2 minutes.
Let's hope we do not have to cope with anything more that some feral U-boats on the Grand Union.
oxenos is offline  
Old 11th Jul 2013, 07:38
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: East Sussex UK
Age: 66
Posts: 6,995
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Not strictly MPA ... but I always thought the Ringed Wimpy looked purposeful

Might zap a few pacemakers these days though ...


Last edited by CoffmanStarter; 11th Jul 2013 at 07:40.
CoffmanStarter is offline  
Old 11th Jul 2013, 09:46
  #20 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: uk
Posts: 788
Received 32 Likes on 10 Posts
I suppose it has a certain attraction.
oxenos is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.