Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Military Aviation
Reload this Page >

First graduates on new Fast Jet course

Wikiposts
Search
Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

First graduates on new Fast Jet course

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 14th Jun 2013, 08:37
  #21 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: EGDC
Posts: 10,321
Received 622 Likes on 270 Posts
Sim practice, eh? Probably learning how to do a wingover properly.
ooooohhhh you'll go straight to hell for that one

At least in the sim there won't be any random vehicles to 'distract' him from the manoeuvre
crab@SAAvn.co.uk is offline  
Old 14th Jun 2013, 09:44
  #22 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: england
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It's good news recruiting has started again, I'm planning to apply in February and for years I've been worried they still wouldn't be recruiting pilots by then!
sljmaster is offline  
Old 14th Jun 2013, 09:50
  #23 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Northants
Posts: 692
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
BV

re your last post.

If it means what you would suggest it does then that is at best a cheap shot and at worst an invasion of someone's very private territory. If someone wishes to make intimate details public then it's up to them, it's not really the place for "mates" to make slightly oblique comments on a public forum.

Last edited by Flap62; 14th Jun 2013 at 10:37.
Flap62 is offline  
Old 14th Jun 2013, 11:30
  #24 (permalink)  

Champagne anyone...?
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: EGDL
Age: 54
Posts: 1,420
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Wow. Just wow.

I'm guessing that not only have you grasped the wrong end of the stick but you do in fact have the wrong stick altogether.....
StopStart is offline  
Old 14th Jun 2013, 13:36
  #25 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Around
Posts: 1,199
Received 116 Likes on 52 Posts
At least one serving WO was a JT in the Falklands. MiD too....
downsizer is offline  
Old 14th Jun 2013, 13:43
  #26 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: EGDC
Posts: 10,321
Received 622 Likes on 270 Posts
Flap62 - I think you might have read more into the phrase
I am well aware of their gender persuasions.
than BV actually meant
crab@SAAvn.co.uk is offline  
Old 14th Jun 2013, 14:54
  #27 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Near the coast
Posts: 2,366
Received 545 Likes on 147 Posts
First graduates on new Fast Jet course

Flap62.
Well done for jumping to one of the most ridiculous conclusions that I have seen on this forum for a considerable time.
For those that don't understand big words let me rephrase my original post (which was in itself a reply to a pointless comment in the first place):

I know all of the graduates well. There are three boys and one girl. They like fast planes. They all bat for the correct teams.

Talk about adding two and two together to make yoghurt.
BV
Bob Viking is offline  
Old 14th Jun 2013, 14:57
  #28 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Near the coast
Posts: 2,366
Received 545 Likes on 147 Posts
First graduates on new Fast Jet course

I meant to also say to SLJ that you should remember these guys have already been in the RAF for a few years and that recruiting for pilots is due to recommence in 2014. However, bearing in mind the powers that be may well have got rid of more pilots than they should have recently (and pissed off a number of others to the point that they also intend to leave) you may find the floodgates will open in the not too distant future.
Good luck when your time comes.
BV
Bob Viking is offline  
Old 14th Jun 2013, 15:06
  #29 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Posts: 26,806
Received 270 Likes on 109 Posts
Congrats to the latest batch of neo-JPs!

But Bob, old chap, it is entirely possible that, read in abstract, the comment
Knowing the lady in question I feel sure she will not mind being called one of the guys.
could perhaps be a touche ambiguous?

Anyway, lucky folk - that Hawk T2 cockpit looks pretty demanding to operate. Well done to you all - a pity that there's no live weaponeering at Valley these days though, I think that's a great loss. Even worse than the demise of 'proper' TWUs.....

Last edited by BEagle; 14th Jun 2013 at 15:07.
BEagle is online now  
Old 14th Jun 2013, 15:39
  #30 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Near the coast
Posts: 2,366
Received 545 Likes on 147 Posts
First graduates on new Fast Jet course

BEagle.
Perhaps but it was meant to be an innocent and genuine remark. She, like most girls I have met in the FJ world, is probably sick of pseudo feminist apologists who constantly remind everyone that she's 'different'. She'd probably rather just be known as a FJ pilot.
Anyway I apologise unreservedly on behalf of us all for the blatant thread hijack.
Well done again guys and best of luck on 15/29.
BV
Bob Viking is offline  
Old 14th Jun 2013, 17:50
  #31 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: gashbag
Age: 52
Posts: 558
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Touched a nerve perhaps?
PURPLE PITOT is offline  
Old 14th Jun 2013, 18:44
  #32 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 104
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well done those pilots. But why are we celebrating? They deserve medals for just sticking it out in that shambles for so long while their peers that got sold out and made redundant are (largely) flying for civilian carriers or otherwise building a lasting career.

How long have we had those jets? I'm embarrassed for them that the pinnacle of their training is overshadowed by the fact that they should have been out of that miserable place and earning flying pay more than a year earlier.

Well done all of you. Shame on our pathetic legacy of a once grand flying training system.

Ray
raytofclimb is offline  
Old 14th Jun 2013, 19:12
  #33 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: the far south
Posts: 608
Likes: 0
Received 34 Likes on 13 Posts
Well done all - better late than never getting students through modern training to OCUs

What happens now to the Hawk T1's at Valley?
typerated is offline  
Old 14th Jun 2013, 19:30
  #34 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Orkney
Age: 35
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
BV,

I did laugh. Thought you might recognise some of this:
RAF Hawk T2 Course 1 - The Hawk T2 Test Pilots - YouTube
Enjoy!

Last edited by drwild; 14th Jun 2013 at 22:04.
drwild is offline  
Old 14th Jun 2013, 21:09
  #35 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Did I Tell You I Was A Harrier Pilot
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
On seeing the graduation photo from afar (with my ageing eyes) I did wonder why the graduates were so old and so emblazoned with operational awards...
DITYIWAHP is offline  
Old 14th Jun 2013, 22:19
  #36 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: FL, USA
Posts: 357
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hi BEags, yes, I had to do a re-read too...realized what BV meant! The Internet can be a black hole for phrases unintentionally, I suppose...

Regardless, BV's obvious connection to the graduating class deserves credit, let's hope for many more in 2014.

Well done studes, and BV, it's never easy reactivating mothballed training programmes; we are facing new-hire recruitment for the first time in 13 years here at my airline in the US...very few of the last recruiters still around!
RRAAMJET is offline  
Old 15th Jun 2013, 01:21
  #37 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Near the coast
Posts: 2,366
Received 545 Likes on 147 Posts
First graduates on new Fast Jet course

Wildy.
I'm pretty sure I know who you are
Whoever flew the jet in that video is clearly an absolute legend and pilot of the highest calibre.
BV
Bob Viking is offline  
Old 15th Jun 2013, 10:18
  #38 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Belgium
Posts: 254
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Given that his user name is drwild and there is a Flt Lt Wild on the course, I reckon I can work out who he is and I've never met him!

Congrats to all - the new hawk actually makes me feel like going to Valley again!

A few questions for those in the know, if you don't mind but please keep it open source (don't want anyone getting in trouble!):

How does the T2 compare to the T1 in terms of flying? I remember the T1 being great fun clean but if you put a couple of pylons on and a gun pod it was nowhere near as good.

Most of the vid has a centreline pod (doesn't look like the old gun?) and acquis or are they acmi pods (or one of each)? Does it have a proper RWR (looking at the thing at the leading edge of the tail looks like one)? Does the fit get changed daily depending on the sorties or do you use a pretty much standard one? Clarification would be much appreciated, just for my personal curiosity and education.

I get the big, long overdue, avionics upgrade, but any other significant differences?

Did the course start with 4?!?
Backwards PLT is offline  
Old 15th Jun 2013, 11:50
  #39 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 1 Post
Well done to All - Highland Park

Well done to all four of the boys and girls. Wildy; good to see you are proving the potential we saw in you at Wyton . . well done mate.

And I'm still enjoying the Highland Park
Idle Reverse is offline  
Old 15th Jun 2013, 14:24
  #40 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: East Midlands
Age: 84
Posts: 1,511
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Lady and gentlemen is more my time, boys and girl is about right and the modern usage of "Guys" as a collective noun makes me vomit! It is even used by the BEEB during news bulletins.
Certainly these pilots have done a very different course to the one I instructed on at Valley in Gnats (64 to 66)! Well done and safe flying, have fun too BTW!
A2QFI is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.