Prince Harry....The Soldier!
Good post Al, well said! Can't say much more as I'm being squeezed off the page by SAS's enormous pic! Like yours though. Just shows that size isn't everything, doesn't it?
Edit, Oh, just noticed that I'm on the next page, thus negating most of what I said. Mother, Father, kindly disregard this letter!
Edit, Oh, just noticed that I'm on the next page, thus negating most of what I said. Mother, Father, kindly disregard this letter!
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he also didn't go to university, so why anyone would honk off about a dodgy arts degree is somewhat beyond me...
TT2's point might have had more, err... point if he had managed to talk about the right brother - which kind of mitigates against his claim that 'i'm a bright lad who worked bloody hard - why should this thick, lazy fecker get it for nowt' claim.
can't differentiate between two brothers who look different, are in different services and have had every detail of the education and careers broadcast to the world? probably best if you stay away from complex machinery....
TT2's point might have had more, err... point if he had managed to talk about the right brother - which kind of mitigates against his claim that 'i'm a bright lad who worked bloody hard - why should this thick, lazy fecker get it for nowt' claim.
can't differentiate between two brothers who look different, are in different services and have had every detail of the education and careers broadcast to the world? probably best if you stay away from complex machinery....
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"I worked my bollocks of to be a pilot, and indeed learned a fantastic amount form Senior Techs when I went into Engineering" -
So did you make it through flying training to the frontline and then go into engineering later or ?
Like Harry and many others, I joined without a degree, ended up single seat - a degree and school quals can make zero difference, or a world of difference - it all depends on the individual.
Regardless, he went through flying training, graduated, and has now been on operations performing his duty - there is no space on the frontline for pilots not able to perform, so rest assured he clearly has talent and is good at his job.
"I worked my bollocks of to be a pilot, and indeed learned a fantastic amount form Senior Techs when I went into Engineering" -
So did you make it through flying training to the frontline and then go into engineering later or ?
Like Harry and many others, I joined without a degree, ended up single seat - a degree and school quals can make zero difference, or a world of difference - it all depends on the individual.
Regardless, he went through flying training, graduated, and has now been on operations performing his duty - there is no space on the frontline for pilots not able to perform, so rest assured he clearly has talent and is good at his job.
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I infer from a remark on a post on another thread that he doesn't have any medals to wear and that he has therefore never been in harms way. I therefore conclude that his class hate driven tirade against an Apache pilot who has done two operational tours in Afghanistan is a bit rich, even for him.
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Spoiled wee brat.
With not enough educational quals to even approach aircrew selection centre, in fact if we look back and remember, there was a bit of scandal over his dodged up arts degree.
There must be thousands of guys and gals who have studied hard and watch every single thing that flies past / over them and say to themselves, "I want, I want, I want".
But their Granny doesn't own the AF. Nor own PR reps.
I worked my bollocks of to be a pilot, and indeed learned a fantastic amount form Senior Techs when I went into Engineering. Respect to all SAC's.
Still involved in the aircraft defence supply industry in the Far East, I'd rather have a conversation with a Bangkok whore - at least they have some life experience and a sense of humour, do not dress up in Nazi uniforms and whilst suffering a drunken memory loss do not accidently wander into the toilet zone to inhale something that is reminiscent of powdered lactate.
I'm sure the Cotswolds crowd would happily string me up for these comments, but the boy is nothing more than a puppet.
Let's see him do an 'O' level maths paper (Or whatever it is called now).
You actually think they are going to let him in harm's way?. Spoilt wee boy who has never worked for anything in his life.
His Mum got killed? Yup - scooting around Afghanistan in a gunship, how many motherless children these days?.
I await, either a fair hearing or deleted or banned. tis' a Democracy after all.
With not enough educational quals to even approach aircrew selection centre, in fact if we look back and remember, there was a bit of scandal over his dodged up arts degree.
There must be thousands of guys and gals who have studied hard and watch every single thing that flies past / over them and say to themselves, "I want, I want, I want".
But their Granny doesn't own the AF. Nor own PR reps.
I worked my bollocks of to be a pilot, and indeed learned a fantastic amount form Senior Techs when I went into Engineering. Respect to all SAC's.
Still involved in the aircraft defence supply industry in the Far East, I'd rather have a conversation with a Bangkok whore - at least they have some life experience and a sense of humour, do not dress up in Nazi uniforms and whilst suffering a drunken memory loss do not accidently wander into the toilet zone to inhale something that is reminiscent of powdered lactate.
I'm sure the Cotswolds crowd would happily string me up for these comments, but the boy is nothing more than a puppet.
Let's see him do an 'O' level maths paper (Or whatever it is called now).
You actually think they are going to let him in harm's way?. Spoilt wee boy who has never worked for anything in his life.
His Mum got killed? Yup - scooting around Afghanistan in a gunship, how many motherless children these days?.
I await, either a fair hearing or deleted or banned. tis' a Democracy after all.
I can assure you that Harry is a very good pilot and passed his course on merit alone. I don't expect that my assurances will help to remove the obvious chip on your shoulder, but it doesn't alter the facts.
TT2 - you are living proof that, despite the fact that everyone is entitled to an opinion, there's no requirement upon us to take any notice of said opinion.
It must be reassuring to all those involved in the Far East aircraft defence supply industry that such an intelligent, well informed and balanced individual is supporting them.
It must be reassuring to all those involved in the Far East aircraft defence supply industry that such an intelligent, well informed and balanced individual is supporting them.
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Prince Harry seems to have done wonders for US / UK relations.
He even managed to get a Major General to get on his hands and knees !
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He even managed to get a Major General to get on his hands and knees !
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I guess TT2 is entitled to their opinion. Five years ago I might have been inclined to agree but since then I think Captain Wales has matured into an impressive man and officer.
Yes, paths may have been smoothed for him. When you're third in line that's probably inevitable but he could have taken advantage and got a nice city job or gone on a perpetual gap year.
I don't believe there's a shred of evidence that he doesn't deserve his Apache seat.
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Yes, paths may have been smoothed for him. When you're third in line that's probably inevitable but he could have taken advantage and got a nice city job or gone on a perpetual gap year.
I don't believe there's a shred of evidence that he doesn't deserve his Apache seat.
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With not enough educational quals to even approach aircrew selection centre,
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With not enough educational quals to even approach aircrew selection centre,
For the RAF maybe. He's in the Army. You don't need any educational qualifications to apply for Pilot training(unless things have changed since I was in). As long as you can pass selection, your in.
For the RAF maybe. He's in the Army. You don't need any educational qualifications to apply for Pilot training(unless things have changed since I was in). As long as you can pass selection, your in.
M'learned friend Arkroyal was quite literally driving a London bus in his early 20s, went to night school to get the O-levels he'd missed out on and went to Dartmouth aged 25. He's now/was til recently in the LHS for a LoCo.
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Dunno?
Dont't know about you and when you went to Biggin, but when I went, 5 O' levels or O' grades were minimum - maths and English essential. Highers were even better.
I don't think having a tutor dodge up paintings was an acceptable qual.
AAC worked to a different set of qualifications - the recruitment Sergeant I spoke to maintained that if I joined as a grunt in three years I could be a helo pilot. For some peculiar reason, I believed him not............
Yes, I truly enjoyed the flying, it was hard work to get there. I also am absolutely indebted to the Engineers who helped me along the way - truly a fascinating vocation and that's what I still do.
I remain current and indeed was trundling around Khao Yai with Fon on Friday which was nice. Lovely scenery from 3000 feet. (Make like not bump into mountains during rain showers).
Anyway, I pay my taxes in full and am thus entitled to an opinion - it is a democracy isn't it? Is it?.
I don't think having a tutor dodge up paintings was an acceptable qual.
AAC worked to a different set of qualifications - the recruitment Sergeant I spoke to maintained that if I joined as a grunt in three years I could be a helo pilot. For some peculiar reason, I believed him not............
Yes, I truly enjoyed the flying, it was hard work to get there. I also am absolutely indebted to the Engineers who helped me along the way - truly a fascinating vocation and that's what I still do.
I remain current and indeed was trundling around Khao Yai with Fon on Friday which was nice. Lovely scenery from 3000 feet. (Make like not bump into mountains during rain showers).
Anyway, I pay my taxes in full and am thus entitled to an opinion - it is a democracy isn't it? Is it?.
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Of course you are entitled to your opinion. This is indeed a democracy and I for one would fight tooth and nail to preserve your right to make a total knob of yourself on a public forum. So, I suspect, would Harry.
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TT2, of course you're entitled to your opinion. You're also entitled to come across as a bit of a buffoon and with your insistence that Harry did an arts degree, that's what you're doing. Trust me. I was an engineer. Kinda.
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Just as he has a right to his Opinion....he also has the Right to remain silent too!
Far better to be thought a Fool....than to open one's festering Gob and remove all doubt!
Far better to be thought a Fool....than to open one's festering Gob and remove all doubt!
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AAC worked to a different set of qualifications - the recruitment Sergeant I spoke to maintained that if I joined as a grunt in three years I could be a helo pilot. For some peculiar reason, I believed him not............
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Confused.
errr.......what do bits of tin have to do with it?. I am sure you are an educated chap and are fully aware of Napolean's statement in this regard. I actually have had a .45 stuffed in my face by an extremely irate Cambodian who thought I was chatting up his G/F - wrong. I cannot speak Khmer.
Thai Marines I was with thought it was hilarious. She was rather pretty though.
Thai Marines I was with thought it was hilarious. She was rather pretty though.
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Aye....
"In June 2003, he completed his education at Eton with two A-Levels[13] (achieving a grade B in art and D in Geography) having decided to drop history of art after AS level"
One would kind of think that a knowledge of geography would be of importance to a potential Army Officer - good grief, that's why his great granny made her fortune. She knew where places were (it's called an atlas).
In my days a 'D' was less than 50% - i.e. Fail. PPl's have to get 75% on the tests.
Jeez, 4 years at Eton and that's all he gets, bit expensive like, for no result.
In my day an art A level would not even have got you past the initial interview in the local recruitment office. You had to have maths and english + 3 others minimum.
Someone here called me 'Bitter' : What bollocks. I actually have quite a nice life - it is pleasant. I get to fiddle with aircraft and helos, get to wander around with no restrictions, have three extremely nice ladies who are pals to a point, and speak the lingo of bordering countries. (As well as this one). But not Khmer, don't know why. Lao is O.K., various dialects in Thai are O.K., Puu Tai (Isaan dialect) is O.K., Burmese is O.K.
One thing is, that I get to meet people from many AF's and Mil and have a laugh without wondering about property and pension deprecation in Blighty.
And wander off to a nice wee private beach anytime I want. Bitter?. Tee hee. No.
Crack on chaps...........enjoy the memories. The clock is ticking.
One would kind of think that a knowledge of geography would be of importance to a potential Army Officer - good grief, that's why his great granny made her fortune. She knew where places were (it's called an atlas).
In my days a 'D' was less than 50% - i.e. Fail. PPl's have to get 75% on the tests.
Jeez, 4 years at Eton and that's all he gets, bit expensive like, for no result.
In my day an art A level would not even have got you past the initial interview in the local recruitment office. You had to have maths and english + 3 others minimum.
Someone here called me 'Bitter' : What bollocks. I actually have quite a nice life - it is pleasant. I get to fiddle with aircraft and helos, get to wander around with no restrictions, have three extremely nice ladies who are pals to a point, and speak the lingo of bordering countries. (As well as this one). But not Khmer, don't know why. Lao is O.K., various dialects in Thai are O.K., Puu Tai (Isaan dialect) is O.K., Burmese is O.K.
One thing is, that I get to meet people from many AF's and Mil and have a laugh without wondering about property and pension deprecation in Blighty.
And wander off to a nice wee private beach anytime I want. Bitter?. Tee hee. No.
Crack on chaps...........enjoy the memories. The clock is ticking.
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