Here it comes: Syria
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Thomas Hardy wrote:
‘Peace upon earth!’ was said. We sing it,
And pay a million priests to bring it.
After two thousand years of mass
We’ve got as far as poison gas.
Only 2 things are necessary for war. The will and the capacity. I can't see the former and the coagulation has denuded us of the latter.
‘Peace upon earth!’ was said. We sing it,
And pay a million priests to bring it.
After two thousand years of mass
We’ve got as far as poison gas.
Only 2 things are necessary for war. The will and the capacity. I can't see the former and the coagulation has denuded us of the latter.
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Well if there is any truth to this, welcome to WW3 part 1
Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria | EUTimes ? Iranian.com
Saudis offer Russia secret oil deal if it drops Syria - Telegraph
Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria | EUTimes ? Iranian.com
Saudis offer Russia secret oil deal if it drops Syria - Telegraph
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Nutloose, we agree.
On local radio yesterday a caller proposed the perfect solution.
Give all the politicians a rifle and tin hat. We'll follow.
On local radio yesterday a caller proposed the perfect solution.
Give all the politicians a rifle and tin hat. We'll follow.
Nutloose,
Welcome to the world of the conspiracy nuts and hoaxers!
The story 'Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria' is a fabrication of Sorcha Faal (David Booth). If you thought Alex Jones (Infowars) was bad then David Booth making stuff up under 'Sorcha Faal' goes even further.
Sorcha Faal... Internet Hoax Queen Courtesy of David Booth..., page 1
Welcome to the world of the conspiracy nuts and hoaxers!
The story 'Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria' is a fabrication of Sorcha Faal (David Booth). If you thought Alex Jones (Infowars) was bad then David Booth making stuff up under 'Sorcha Faal' goes even further.
Sorcha Faal... Internet Hoax Queen Courtesy of David Booth..., page 1
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"On local radio yesterday a caller proposed the perfect solution.
Give all the politicians a rifle and tin hat. We'll follow."
+ 100
That is gold
I'd follow, with my bayonet attached to my rifle just to give them
a prod along if they started having second thoughts.
"On local radio yesterday a caller proposed the perfect solution.
Give all the politicians a rifle and tin hat. We'll follow."
+ 100
That is gold
I'd follow, with my bayonet attached to my rifle just to give them
a prod along if they started having second thoughts.
I see that "Liebore" have proposed an amendment to tomorrow's debate, suggesting that no military action is taken until UN reports confirm the culprits. I see no reason whatsoever why every MP in the house of conmen can't support that. After all, no conviction without a proof of guilt is surely the norm for our country. Back that and make Hague and Co wait. This is becoming a frenzy too far I believe.
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Nutloose:
I say bollocks... Defense cuts preclude the issue of the helmet... Screw them like they screwed the military...
Give all the politicians a rifle and tin hat. We'll follow.
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Doubtful, very, very much. Don't confuse a desire to avoid military action with a vote of confidence for these loons. They are and will remain a marginal force in UK politics. IMHO of course - we will need to disagree on that one then.
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The House of Commons will have to hold two votes before it can back "direct" military action in Syria, the government has announced.
MPs, returning early to Westminster on Thursday, will debate a motion on a "strong humanitarian response" to an alleged chemical weapons attack.
A second vote on military action will only happen after the UN has considered reports by its inspectors, it adds.
Labour said David Cameron had "changed his mind" under pressure.
MPs, returning early to Westminster on Thursday, will debate a motion on a "strong humanitarian response" to an alleged chemical weapons attack.
A second vote on military action will only happen after the UN has considered reports by its inspectors, it adds.
Labour said David Cameron had "changed his mind" under pressure.
"This House:
"Deplores the use of chemical weapons in Syria on 21 August 2013 by the Assad regime, which caused hundreds of deaths and thousands of injuries of Syrian civilians;
"Recalls the importance of upholding the worldwide prohibition on the use of chemical weapons under international law;
"Agrees that a strong humanitarian response is required from the international community and that this may, if necessary, require military action that is legal, proportionate and focused on saving lives by preventing and deterring further use of Syria's chemical weapons;
"Notes the failure of the United Nations Security Council over the last two years to take united action in response to the Syrian crisis;
"Notes that the use of chemical weapons is a war crime under customary law and a crime against humanity - and that the principle of humanitarian intervention provides a sound legal basis for taking action;
"Notes the wide international support for such a response, including the statement from the Arab League on 27 August which calls on the international community, represented in the United Nations Security Council, to 'overcome internal disagreements and take action against those who committed this crime, for which the Syrian regime is responsible';
"Believes, in spite of the difficulties at the United Nations, that a United Nations process must be followed as far as possible to ensure the maximum legitimacy for any such action;
"Therefore welcomes the work of the United Nations investigating team currently in Damascus. Whilst noting that the team's mandate is to confirm whether chemical weapons were used and not to apportion blame, agrees that the United Nations Secretary General should ensure a briefing to the United Nations Security Council immediately upon the completion of the team's initial mission;
"Believes that the United Nations Security Council must have the opportunity immediately to consider that briefing and that every effort should be made to secure a Security Council Resolution backing military action before any such action is taken. Before any direct British involvement in such action a further vote of the House of Commons will take place.
"Notes that this motion relates solely to efforts to alleviate humanitarian suffering by deterring use of chemical weapons and does not sanction any action in Syria with wider objectives."
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I note that the wretched Bliar has made an unwelcome reappearance - presumably to give Call-me-Dave and Hague-the-Mekon some top tips on how to get away with illegal wars?
I actually despair......
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I see that "Liebore" have proposed an amendment to tomorrow's debate, suggesting that no military action is taken until UN reports confirm the culprits. I see no reason whatsoever why every MP in the house of conmen can't support that. After all, no conviction without a proof of guilt is surely the norm for our country. Back that and make Hague and Co wait. This is becoming a frenzy too far I believe.
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DIVIDE AND RULE. DC's latest googlie. See BBC's latest, on plan for TWO votes in UK Parliament. Only a desperate political situation could precipitate such measures. A conditional win by Cameron in Parliament on Thursday will be "overtaken by events" on Sunday morning as UK forces strike back.
Just my opinion.
OAP
Just my opinion.
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They're so desperate to rush into someone else's war. What's the hurry, Syria isn't going anywhere. If the UN can get a resolution agreed, and if other countries are willing to take action, then maybe we could be part of the coalition, though I think the prospects of those politicians who vote in favour of our involvement may find their careers cut short at the next election. We don't need to follow the US in everything, we didn't get involved in Vietnam, and we shouldn't get involved in this. If we can't afford to keep our roads in a good state, not to mention the budget cuts to the MoD, how can we afford this? Where's the money to come from? Politicians, there isn't an honest one amongst them.
OAP is probably right. There is no need for the military option to be mentioned otherwise in the first vote. It should properly be left until the second vote when the UN report is in.
How stupid are Labour??
p.s. sharpen up smuj, you can come across that pic on the previous page
How stupid are Labour??
p.s. sharpen up smuj, you can come across that pic on the previous page
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Rush to war
Lots of fast jet noise high above East Anglia today. On my hols not a million miles from Cromer and there's been a day of constant background rumble, and it isn't thunder...