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Old 8th May 2013, 18:42
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Perhaps another measure is when the opinions of the brown jobs are sought by Parliament, [Serious] Parliament Wants ARRSE ; whereas.......
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You know you have become a third rate Air Force when....

Some flying training units have more foreign students on them than RAF.
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 06:04
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Originally Posted by rolandpull
.....you rely on the TOTAL manning of the RN to help fill up Old Trafford. We filled it by ourselves in 1979.
The total manning of the RN would just fill the Stretford end ......aaarrrgh
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Your hundred mile an hour tape is re-rated to just 60MPH...

Your trusty aircraft doubles in value when filled with fuel...

When your latest high tech piece of nav kit has a windshield mount and the words "Tom Tom" on the back....
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....they serve food on paper plates in the Mess....

How about banana leaves ?

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When your latest high tech piece of nav kit has a windshield mount and the words "Tom Tom" on the back....
You're lucky. Some jets are still using a light bulb shining through a microfiche film with a map printed on it! As the jet flies through the air the film is wound.

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What nation and era is that rear cockpit (looks German)?
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 18:11
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What nation and era is that rear cockpit (looks German)?

Are you judging German by the Jungen's stopwatch?

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Couldn't help noticing there's rather a lot of discussion about gay and lesbian issues here and was afraid I'd inadvertently entered the wrong forum, erm so to speak.
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When you reach its centenary and realise that you had more planes and pilots at the start of the Air Force than you have now.
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You know you have become a third rate Air Force when....

When promotion is largely decided on whos arse you have kissed, if you play station level sport, are the treasurer of some poncy station club that nobody else on camp knew existed or even cares about its existance, who you got royally screwed over for your own gain whilst pretending to be said screwed over persons best buddy and if your face fits in with all the other 'yes men' Instead of it being based on how good you are at your primary role, whether you have the abillity to lead others or at least the qualities to become a good leader/instructor/manager etc.
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Old 20th Sep 2013, 01:19
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You know you are still a first rate Air Force when...

The lads and lasses coming through the training system show the same determination and enthusiasm as the Few

You don't give a monkey's what a bunch of retired old farts on an internet website say.

You're proud to go into work each day because you feel the job you do is a million times more worthwhile than any of your civvy friends.

You're not bitter because you weren't promoted to whatever level your ego thought you had earned.

You know that the capability your sqn can deploy is at least ten times that than was possible a couple of decades ago.
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Originally Posted by Red Line Entry
The lads and lasses coming through the training system show the same determination and enthusiasm as the Few

You don't give a monkey's what a bunch of retired old farts on an internet website say.

You're proud to go into work each day because you feel the job you do is a million times more worthwhile than any of your civvy friends.

You're not bitter because you weren't promoted to whatever level your ego thought you had earned.

You know that the capability your sqn can deploy is at least ten times that than was possible a couple of decades ago.
You are very naive or you have only been in 5 minutes and not had your pension messed with, your pay frozen (pay cut when you include inflation), allowances removed, seen resources and manpower cut to a fraction it was when you joined.

You're proud to go into work each day because you feel the job you do is a million times more worthwhile than any of your civvy friends.
My civvy friends get paid more for putting up with less s***t than we get.

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There is nothing left anymore. While the Typhoon is a great aircraft they never hardly actually fly. The same can be said of the GR4. Pilots these days must get hardly any flying hours. Once the F-35 comes along I bet it will never hardly leave the ground either as we will have so few of them, most will be broken most of the time and besides its going to be costly to fly.
That's what is really sad, all/most of the older types have gone but we cannot even afford to fly the new stuff properly. Wonder where the money went that used to be spent on the flying hours for the Jaguar, Harrier, Tornado F-3, Nimrod and Canberra also the money allocated for the flying hours of 13sq and 14sq.
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When you no longer have the mighty VC 10 as an asset.
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An ASSET??????
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OK, it's from the Daily Mail, but it made me laugh.

Hard-up RAF flies second-hand jets in US air force colours to save £3million cost of repainting them in British colours | Mail Online
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Mega recession and depression, reduction in military assets....................2008-2013 or 1929 to 1934........
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OK, it's from the Daily Mail, but it made me laugh.

Hard-up RAF flies second-hand jets in US air force colours to save £3million cost of repainting them in British colours | Mail Online
The last line of that report did make me laugh:

When 51 Squadron personnel begin operating UK Rivet Joint aircraft they will wear RAF flying suits.
Is this something we should be getting excited about? Is somebody in line for a promotion or an OBE for that stunning decision? I think the noise that kept disturbing my concentration as I was reading the article was the sound of the bottom of the barrel being scraped.
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Old 22nd Sep 2013, 21:52
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Originally Posted by Red Line Entry
The lads and lasses coming through the training system show the same determination and enthusiasm as the Few

You don't give a monkey's what a bunch of retired old farts on an internet website say.

You're proud to go into work each day because you feel the job you do is a million times more worthwhile than any of your civvy friends.

You're not bitter because you weren't promoted to whatever level your ego thought you had earned.

You know that the capability your sqn can deploy is at least ten times that than was possible a couple of decades ago.
Well said Red Line, spot on. While a bit of healthy cynicism can be a good thing when it starts to become the default setting you should move on. I used to rail again the perma-cynics who would pop up and berate every thing to do with service life. There has always been reason to criticise at every stage of the RAF's life but you do wonder why these folk don't press to test and just leave. In truth they are the minority, they just like the sound of their own voices. It's folk like you that make the Service, good on you fella.
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