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You know you have become a third rate Air Force when....

Old 17th Apr 2013, 07:36
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Thank goodness most of you miserable lot are out!

I was going to launch into a diatribe about how the vast majority of those I work with are still up for it, but you know what? I get the feeling it would a waste of time.

Crack on...
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 07:45
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You know you have become a third rate Air Force when....

1. It has more capability gaps than capability.
2. It can't afford its own elementary training aircraft.
3. The rented elementary training aircraft fall to bits.
4. It can't afford to train its own QFIs.
5. It can't afford practice weapons for trainee fighter pilots.
6. It took the scrapping of its maritime role without a murmur - instead of Air Staff resigning en bloc.
7. It took the scrapping of its V/STOL role without a murmur - instead of Air Staff resigning en bloc.
8. It contracted its primary AAR needs to a civilian service company which has yet to acheive any AAR service.
9. It had to go cap in hand to MCCE to find some foreign tankers to take its whizzy new fighters on a simple 4-leg trail.
10. It can't afford military hospitals. Or bands... Or squadron events in the Officers' Mess.
11. It can't afford 'Air Clues' and its own newspaper is riddled with errors and inaccuracies.
12. It has all but stopped recruiting.
13. It "Hears what you say", but does nothing "Because there's no money". Or should that be 'will'?

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Old 17th Apr 2013, 08:18
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You think that doing Electronic Warfare properly is just TFD

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Old 17th Apr 2013, 08:32
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When more emphasis is put on running between two orange cones in a gymnasium every six months, rather than providing the resources to give us serviceable aircraft to do our job in.
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When all officers below CAS have to justify - in writing - on each occasion - why they need a driver for a service vehicle and don't self-drive.

(You heard it here first).

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Old 17th Apr 2013, 08:53
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During war studies at Sleaford in the late 1960’s, we were given the definition of a third world defence force.

It was one with more air marshals than squadrons, more admirals than ships, and more generals than regiments…..

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Old 17th Apr 2013, 08:59
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Question

Are the Tutors still grounded?
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 09:27
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....when they change the logo and brand identity.
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 09:27
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There is only one thing that marks an Air Force as Third Rate, and that's losing....

...and there's only one way to know that for sure, but by then it's too late to fix the problem.

The question is, are the threats less credible than the Air Force?
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 10:01
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I'm still in. I'm still "up for it". I still find it a huge embarrassment that a once capable Air Force has to borrow tankers from another Air Force because the replacement for its own capable but old jets has failed to provide what it was contracted to do. Has to hire its training aircraft. Basically is a shadow of its former self
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 10:19
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....When there are 16 E&D nominated personnel at one training establishment..
....When 80% of work is done on a simulator..
....When a reunion has to held in a local Hotel because the Mess is 'too expensive'..
....When 65% of service personnel at a single unit cannot pass their basic fitness test..
....When the above are'nt challenged because they run to one of the 16 E&D types...
....Pamphlets are constantly produced covering everything from 'Air Power' to 'How to talk to Minorities'..
....A standard Flying Programme today would have been classed as insufficient for trg purposes less than 10 years ago...
....A cancer of meaningless Management Speak..
....Bosses more focused on getting their MA than leading their people..

Jeez, I'm getting old....time for my nap.
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 13:13
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"Per Ardua ad Astra" describes the Air force nicely then

Perhaps it should now be "Per Ardua ad Firma"
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 14:40
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RLE

I'm still in. I'm still "up for it". I still find it a huge embarrassment that a once capable Air Force has to borrow tankers from another Air Force because the replacement for its own capable but old jets has failed to provide what it was contracted to do.
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I'm still in. I'm still "up for it". I still find it a huge embarrassment that a once capable Air Force with the worlds best MPA aircraft and crews has to beg for MPA from our Allies because the requirement and need hasn't gone away and we're still an island race with SSBN's to protect!
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You know you have become a third rate Air Force when....

People would rather leave the Service at their option point than accept promotion.
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 17:00
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When anything to do with Personnel is referred to as a Human Resource issue
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 17:34
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I doubt if many of the RAF Police recruits at the station were any wiser than moi.
I doubt whether many of the RAF police recruits were wiser than anyo...

Oh just too easy!
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 17:43
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Per Ardua ad Astra
This is why we have those bl**dy awful diesel estates!
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 17:49
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.....you rely on the TOTAL manning of the RN to help fill up Old Trafford. We filled it by ourselves in 1979.
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You know you have become a third rate Air Force when....

The circuits and the LFAs are empty.
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