Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Military Aviation
Reload this Page >

Cyprus Levy on Bank Accounts

Wikiposts
Search
Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

Cyprus Levy on Bank Accounts

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 18th Mar 2013, 17:32
  #81 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: South Africa
Age: 87
Posts: 1,329
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
TTH

But what if Mesdames Baldrick and Blighter work in the NAAFI within an SBA, as the SBAs are in many ways legally NOT in Cyprus - there's a clue in the name after all!
Surely, what counts is not where they work, but where their bank is?

See my earlier post, which hasn't been answered.

Are there any banks in the SBA's today?

When I was on Aphrodite's Isle, Barclay's DCO and The Ottoman Bank each had a branch in RAF Akrotiri. But I lived out in Limassol, so it was more convieniant for me to use a branch on the seafront.

But then again, that was over half a century ago
ian16th is offline  
Old 18th Mar 2013, 18:31
  #82 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Back from the sandpit
Age: 63
Posts: 492
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
As of just over two years ago there were certainly a couple of banks opposite the NAAFI, for the life of me I can't remember which, but in the early eighties if my memory isn't completely puddled they were Grindlays and Barclays but could be completely wrong, can't even remember who I banked with out there. I do know you had to have a Cypriot bank account though as has been mentioned earlier.
Top Bunk Tester is offline  
Old 18th Mar 2013, 18:44
  #83 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Stamford
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Are there any banks in the SBA's today?
There's a branch of Laiki and Hellenic at Akrotiri and another Laiki in Dodge City, Episkopi.

I'm not sure that having a branch there is enough for the bank to be considered to be based in the SBA.

Last edited by Stuff; 18th Mar 2013 at 18:44.
Stuff is offline  
Old 18th Mar 2013, 18:50
  #84 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Texas
Age: 64
Posts: 7,200
Received 395 Likes on 245 Posts
A few comments ...
What did they expect, you start in effect stealing money from people to prop up the bank
The term "in effect" is extraneous in that sentence. What is going on is theft, plain and simple.
Its basically effing state sponsored theft.And it sets a very worrying
precedent.
It is not "in effect" theft, it is theft.

I agree, however, that it sets a worrying precedent . . . IF and only IFF they get away with it.

Other governing classes are watching closely to see how far these governmental thieves get away with it.

Seems to me time to learn a few things from Third World folks given (nice point above) this Third World stunt being pulled. Maybe what would get the attention of the political class would be a series of necklacing events featuring government officials involved in this decision. That might send the message loud and clear. I am eager to see what the "Cypriot Street" makes of all this.

Last edited by Lonewolf_50; 18th Mar 2013 at 18:53.
Lonewolf_50 is offline  
Old 18th Mar 2013, 19:30
  #85 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 5,222
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Years ago they wouldn't have creamed off bank accounts; they would have just changed the currency with a variable exchange rate. It is a very effective way of disassembling fortunes without effecting the general populace. Used to be popular in the third world.
Fareastdriver is offline  
Old 18th Mar 2013, 20:57
  #86 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: East Midlands
Age: 84
Posts: 1,511
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Russia is now talking withdrawing its €2.5 billion(?) loan, support or whatever it is
A2QFI is offline  
Old 18th Mar 2013, 21:29
  #87 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: london,uk
Posts: 735
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
It is not "in effect" theft, it is theft.
By the Cypriot government, who failed to manage their banks and provide a depositor protection scheme big enough to bail out their banks.

Russia is now talking withdrawing its €2.5 billion(?) loan, support or whatever it is
No problem, don't bail out any Russian account holders. They have no rights anyway and Iceland demonstrated that its even legal to do that within the EU if the situation is serious enough.

The advantage would be that Cypriots would not need to take a hit on their accounts at all.

Last edited by peter we; 18th Mar 2013 at 21:29.
peter we is offline  
Old 18th Mar 2013, 21:51
  #88 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: london
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Don t ask for help unless you are prepared to accept the cure.
fly12345 is offline  
Old 18th Mar 2013, 22:00
  #89 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: @exRAF_Al
Posts: 3,297
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A2QFI - bung, blackmail.. bribe maybe?

Russia is now talking withdrawing its €2.5 billion(?) loan, support or
whatever it is
Al R is offline  
Old 19th Mar 2013, 01:35
  #90 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 32,888
Received 2,826 Likes on 1,205 Posts
It's all a rather insidious, I cannot believe a European bank or Government is actually sanctioning this. The one thing the whole world has been doing since the financial crisis struck has been trying to prop up the banking systems.
Without the security I can forsee people removing their savings and putting them into other things. No wonder the Eurozone ministers are worried, a run on savings will bring the whole system down.
NutLoose is online now  
Old 19th Mar 2013, 08:15
  #91 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: East Sussex UK
Age: 66
Posts: 6,995
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
NutLoose ... head nail the on hit ! If it does happen ... just watch what happens in Spain, Portugal, Italy ...

What's more idiotic is that in the grand scheme of things the proposed Cypriot "take" is peanuts. A$$ politicians
CoffmanStarter is offline  
Old 19th Mar 2013, 08:48
  #92 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Long ago and far away ......
Posts: 1,399
Received 11 Likes on 5 Posts
I wonder if we will ever find out if any of the European politicians involved in approving this 'theft', be they Cypriot or otherwise, who had money in Cypriot accounts, managed to move their cash before the iniquitous announcement was made? I am willing to bet it did happen.
MrBernoulli is offline  
Old 19th Mar 2013, 09:07
  #93 (permalink)  

Gentleman Aviator
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Teetering Towers - somewhere in the Shires
Age: 74
Posts: 3,697
Received 50 Likes on 24 Posts
Fareastdriver
they would have just changed the currency with a variable exchange rate
exactly so! This is the biggest con of the whole Eurozone.

I am amazed how anyone can expect the same currency to "work" in Naples, Lisbon or Dublin in the same way as it does in Munich or Paris - let alone in Athens or Nicosia.

If you tell a lie big enough, and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.

Dr Joseph Goebbels
teeteringhead is online now  
Old 19th Mar 2013, 13:00
  #94 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: @exRAF_Al
Posts: 3,297
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Subtle but worrying 'clarification' - the g'ment did agree to compensate Cypriot loss suffered by service personnel but it seems that the term now being used is 'unreasonable loss'.

Pensions

(Treasury minister Greg Clark has said) earlier announcements that more than 3,000 British service personnel based in Cyprus would be compensated by the Government if the levy goes ahead to ensure they would not suffer “unreasonable losses”.
Al R is offline  
Old 19th Mar 2013, 13:04
  #95 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: In transit
Age: 70
Posts: 3,052
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I am amazed how anyone can expect the same currency to "work" in Naples, Lisbon or Dublin in the same way as it does in Munich or Paris - let alone in Athens or Nicosia.
That is the underlying flaw with the project. Instead of being amazed, you should remember that it was designed by politicians to serve their own interests and ego, not by economists. The f***wittedness of politicians has no limits.
Capetonian is offline  
Old 19th Mar 2013, 16:16
  #96 (permalink)  

Dog Tired
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: uk
Posts: 1,688
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
RAF airlifting one million euros cash to Cyprus as contingency for the military.

Excellent.
fantom is offline  
Old 19th Mar 2013, 16:33
  #97 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Temporarily missing from the Joe Louis Arena
Posts: 2,131
Received 27 Likes on 16 Posts
RAF airlifting one million euros cash to Cyprus as contingency for the military.

Excellent.
{Insert comment relating to mover criminality here}

The Helpful Stacker is online now  
Old 19th Mar 2013, 16:37
  #98 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Posts: 26,806
Received 270 Likes on 109 Posts
I hope this clever piece of information was only released after the aircraft had landed?
BEagle is offline  
Old 19th Mar 2013, 16:39
  #99 (permalink)  

Gentleman Aviator
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Teetering Towers - somewhere in the Shires
Age: 74
Posts: 3,697
Received 50 Likes on 24 Posts
Hope they don't have to divert....
Declaring cash when entering or leaving the UK

If you are arriving in the UK from a country outside the European Union (EU), or you're leaving the UK to travel directly to a country outside the EU, you must declare any cash of 10,000 euros or more (or its equivalent in other currencies) to customs officers.

HMR&C
teeteringhead is online now  
Old 19th Mar 2013, 17:40
  #100 (permalink)  

Dog Tired
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: uk
Posts: 1,688
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I hope this clever piece of information was only released after the aircraft had landed?
BBC World Service over an hour ago - so absolutely everyone knows.

We could go and meet it...

Last edited by fantom; 19th Mar 2013 at 17:40.
fantom is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.