Red Arrows 'future safe under Cameron'
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I hope he didn't actually use the phrase: "They have my full confidence".
Especially as they're spending a bit of money doing up Scampton.
Or they might find themselves "spending more time with their families".....
Especially as they're spending a bit of money doing up Scampton.
Or they might find themselves "spending more time with their families".....
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Last edited by CoffmanStarter; 20th Feb 2013 at 18:27.
Yey! Put a pretty celeb in the back of every Arrow and the future's assured. Mind you:
I never realised they had it so tough. The stuff the Team face daily. Goodness.
“After Helen passed her medical, she was taken through various tests and safety briefings, including survival equipment procedures, which the team face daily.”
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I'm thinking the Red's need more glitz ... Nicole Schiesinger would get my vote for the Back Seat 
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Red Arrows' Help Offered to India
Mind you, there may be slightly less to this than meets the eye. If I understand it right, the help is restricted to fitting smoke pods with orange, green and white
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Red Arrows' Help Offered to India
Mind you, there may be slightly less to this than meets the eye. If I understand it right, the help is restricted to fitting smoke pods with orange, green and white
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That might be so but em..........we 'aint recruiting!
I'm not too proud to say that I love the Arrows a lot. I am proud to support them whenever and stand up for them, but it does hack me off when I see personalities, especially 'lumpy jumpers' constantly getting a jolly with them.
I wish they would offer the same to the boys and girls who are serving and would give anything for the same.
Winco
That might be so but em..........we 'aint recruiting!
I'm not too proud to say that I love the Arrows a lot. I am proud to support them whenever and stand up for them, but it does hack me off when I see personalities, especially 'lumpy jumpers' constantly getting a jolly with them.
I wish they would offer the same to the boys and girls who are serving and would give anything for the same.
Winco
That might be so but em..........we 'aint recruiting!
Just because the 'now' is bleak, doesn't mean we should ignore that there will be a 'next'.
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1. The lumpy jumper in this case was a TV minor celebrity doing a major charitable fund raising effort which will be very popular and attract millions of viewers. A no brainer from the Services PR perspective. Your remark seems to imply that the team constantly fly bimbos for their own pleasure. I am sure that is not the case.
2. The RAF and other services are still recruiting as far as I am aware and will continue to do so. The fewer numbers should give rise to higher quality of recruits if played cleverly.
3. As far as I know the serving boys and girls get plenty of rides all the time during the training season. Your criticism is unfounded.
1. The lumpy jumper in this case was a TV minor celebrity doing a major charitable fund raising effort which will be very popular and attract millions of viewers. A no brainer from the Services PR perspective. Your remark seems to imply that the team constantly fly bimbos for their own pleasure. I am sure that is not the case.
2. The RAF and other services are still recruiting as far as I am aware and will continue to do so. The fewer numbers should give rise to higher quality of recruits if played cleverly.
3. As far as I know the serving boys and girls get plenty of rides all the time during the training season. Your criticism is unfounded.
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Muppet,
thanks for stating the obvious as far as the Blue Peter audience is concerned. The thing is, things won't get better as far as recruiting is concerned, certainly not as far as pilots and aircrew in general are concerned. Those 13 year olds will need to be at university aswell if they want to fly.
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I regret to inform you that you are 100% incorrect as far as your last statement (3) goes. And even if you were remotely correct, their chances of flying with the team are almost nil. Even as a Sqn Cdr pilot, I was told in no uncertain terms that there was no chance of me going for a jolly with them. As for my lumpy jumper remark, I didn't say that the choice of backseaters was down to the team. I know how it works and I know that in the main, they have little, if any say. It is the constant 'good PR seeking at any cost' attotude of those at the top that I dislike.
thanks for stating the obvious as far as the Blue Peter audience is concerned. The thing is, things won't get better as far as recruiting is concerned, certainly not as far as pilots and aircrew in general are concerned. Those 13 year olds will need to be at university aswell if they want to fly.
Gentstabler
I regret to inform you that you are 100% incorrect as far as your last statement (3) goes. And even if you were remotely correct, their chances of flying with the team are almost nil. Even as a Sqn Cdr pilot, I was told in no uncertain terms that there was no chance of me going for a jolly with them. As for my lumpy jumper remark, I didn't say that the choice of backseaters was down to the team. I know how it works and I know that in the main, they have little, if any say. It is the constant 'good PR seeking at any cost' attotude of those at the top that I dislike.
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On the contrary, I believe my 3rd statement to be accurate. I have no idea why you were not allowed a jolly with them. Perhaps your timing was out. However, many other serving boys and girls do get to fly in the back seat of the experienced team members during training sorties.
On the contrary, I believe my 3rd statement to be accurate. I have no idea why you were not allowed a jolly with them. Perhaps your timing was out. However, many other serving boys and girls do get to fly in the back seat of the experienced team members during training sorties.
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It's not often I feel the need to comment but in this case Winco you are so wide of the mark it is almost comical.
Unless I and more colleagues than I can begin to recall imagined our most enjoyable backseats with the team.
Perhaps they just didn't like you...
Unless I and more colleagues than I can begin to recall imagined our most enjoyable backseats with the team.
Perhaps they just didn't like you...
Careful what you say about "our Helen".
She is a national treasure and has probably achieved more in her twenty-odd years than most will in a lifetime.
A better roll model you will not find.
She does also fill a red flying suit rather well though...
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She is a national treasure and has probably achieved more in her twenty-odd years than most will in a lifetime.
A better roll model you will not find.
She does also fill a red flying suit rather well though...
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