Eye Witness
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Eye Witness
Reading the thread 'Just In Time' and watching the vids brought back memories of AC crashes I had witnessed. Amazingly during my time I have seen 5 first hand and all of the crew got away with it.
Number one was in the late 70's at Laarbruch. From the armoury car park I had a great view of the 2 Sqn T bird doing a wheels up along the runway and the ejection(s). I believe the SEngO was in the back seat.
Number two was in 83? Returning from the Martel site at Marham I got to see a fully loaded Victor Tanker burst into flames on the runway whilst taking off. The crew all managed to escape the biggest bonfire ever in Norolk.
Three was a Starfighter falling short of the runway at Deci about 90ish, he banged out ok.
Four and five were both whilst I was working on 1 Sqn Pan at Wittering in the 90's. Firstly one of our GR5s went sliding by with Flt Lt H....... dangling on his chute obove.
The last on I witnessed was surely the most unexpected, a Hurricane from the BoBF. Hearing the state two tannoy we all went on the pan as it was such an rare ac call. Watching it stall and burst into flames as it hit the ground we thought the pilot had no chance, thankfully he got out.
So the moral of the tale. If any of you out there decide to do the dirty with your ac, best make sure I'm watching and you will be fine
Number one was in the late 70's at Laarbruch. From the armoury car park I had a great view of the 2 Sqn T bird doing a wheels up along the runway and the ejection(s). I believe the SEngO was in the back seat.
Number two was in 83? Returning from the Martel site at Marham I got to see a fully loaded Victor Tanker burst into flames on the runway whilst taking off. The crew all managed to escape the biggest bonfire ever in Norolk.
Three was a Starfighter falling short of the runway at Deci about 90ish, he banged out ok.
Four and five were both whilst I was working on 1 Sqn Pan at Wittering in the 90's. Firstly one of our GR5s went sliding by with Flt Lt H....... dangling on his chute obove.
The last on I witnessed was surely the most unexpected, a Hurricane from the BoBF. Hearing the state two tannoy we all went on the pan as it was such an rare ac call. Watching it stall and burst into flames as it hit the ground we thought the pilot had no chance, thankfully he got out.
So the moral of the tale. If any of you out there decide to do the dirty with your ac, best make sure I'm watching and you will be fine
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Can't compete with 5 but the one I saw was all rather surreal. Waiting at the lights on the peritrack at Chiv (the main gate was closed for refurb) a Hawk was on finals over the estuary. All looked OK until it started to drift lower, then the pilot banged out leaving the aircraft to land short and skid accross the peritrack about 30 yards in front of us! The tide was out so the pilot got rather muddy 
I equally cannot compare with 5, but sadly saw the BAe Hawk at Bratislava in 1999. As others have said, it was surreal watching the display and realising (well) ahead of the crash that it was going to happen and willing to no avail that the pilot step over the side. RIP.
My count is four - once I was working at a company in Bicester in the early 90s (when Upper Heyford was still operational) I happened to step outside to witness an F-111 in its final throes of crashing, trailing a great tongue of flame (the crew attempted to dump fuel before they left with the cockpit). The a/c came down in a factory car park just outside the town. Fortunately there were no injuries although I recall one bloke had a lucky escape - typical story of 'the plane just kept getting bigger' before he dove under a parked car.
Three display crashes - Yak-18 at White Waltham (no injuries), Sea Fury at Prestwick (gear stuck - pilot bailed out over the Clyde), and the Spirit of St Louis replica at Coventry (my only fatality). Oh, I suppose the G222 scrape at RIAT a few years back also counts.
Three display crashes - Yak-18 at White Waltham (no injuries), Sea Fury at Prestwick (gear stuck - pilot bailed out over the Clyde), and the Spirit of St Louis replica at Coventry (my only fatality). Oh, I suppose the G222 scrape at RIAT a few years back also counts.
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At Akrotiri in 1984 (IIRC) I watched the Sparrows opposition loop with growing horror as it became obvious one of them was going to hit the ground and then he did!
Big thump, all sorts of debris going in all directions and then to our amazement a single figure, in flying suit, walking away from the wreckage.
I think his name was CH for those who remember. I often wondered what happened to him afterwards, particularly as to his chances on the national lottery!
I also watched the display F4 spear in, at Abingdon in 1989. Really big thump and I hadn't fully understood the meaning of "fireball" until that instant. RIP.
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Big thump, all sorts of debris going in all directions and then to our amazement a single figure, in flying suit, walking away from the wreckage.
I think his name was CH for those who remember. I often wondered what happened to him afterwards, particularly as to his chances on the national lottery!
I also watched the display F4 spear in, at Abingdon in 1989. Really big thump and I hadn't fully understood the meaning of "fireball" until that instant. RIP.
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Watching nasty things happen
Saw the strange thing or two in twenty years but only one really odd
I was flying a Victor tanker past Binbrook one morning to pick up two lightnings for a a Queens birthday flypast at Scampton, 1968 ish.
One fighter joined up nicely the other went past turned upside down and tentpegged, spoiled the show a bit. I went to the funeral.
The BOI found the pilots harness was insecure, v odd
I was flying a Victor tanker past Binbrook one morning to pick up two lightnings for a a Queens birthday flypast at Scampton, 1968 ish.
One fighter joined up nicely the other went past turned upside down and tentpegged, spoiled the show a bit. I went to the funeral.
The BOI found the pilots harness was insecure, v odd
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I've seen 3, the Atlantique hitting the black sheds at Farnborough, watching him in the final turn thinking that's an awful lot of side-slip to have that near the ground, an auto-gyro that took it's own tail off with it's rotor, also at Farnborough and RAE's Buccaneer at West Freugh, one minute he was steaming in at low level, the next he wasn't, very sad.
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I have witnessed a harrier run out of fuel in the hover. A hawk rotate too early and dissappear into the trees next to the runway, not one but two seakings splat into the deck and a hunter with a throttle restriction get the landing horribly wrong. All crew survived virtually unscathed thank goodness
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You are quite right about it being CH, I always remembered his Hunter displays pre Reds. I believe he left the Reds after that and was in Oman. I've been lucky and only witnessed one which was the Lightning at Akrotiri in 1987 I think with a safe ejection. I've seen quite a few ground mishaps, particularly with Arresting gear and Barriers, one that comes to mind was a 56 Sqn Phantom at the end of a MPC at Valley in 1980, blew a tyre, engaged the RHAG and proceeded into the sand dunes! A similar one just last year with an F15 engaging a BAK 14 way off centreline and proceeding into the desert being finally brought to a halt by an electric transformer! Happy outcomes on both so I suppose the old adage is true, any landing you walk away from is a good one!
You are quite right about it being CH, I always remembered his Hunter displays pre Reds. I believe he left the Reds after that and was in Oman. I've been lucky and only witnessed one which was the Lightning at Akrotiri in 1987 I think with a safe ejection. I've seen quite a few ground mishaps, particularly with Arresting gear and Barriers, one that comes to mind was a 56 Sqn Phantom at the end of a MPC at Valley in 1980, blew a tyre, engaged the RHAG and proceeded into the sand dunes! A similar one just last year with an F15 engaging a BAK 14 way off centreline and proceeding into the desert being finally brought to a halt by an electric transformer! Happy outcomes on both so I suppose the old adage is true, any landing you walk away from is a good one!
The only mishaps I witnessed were at RNZAF Woodbourne c 1986, when on the first occasion I was the Orderly Officer when a SafeAir Argosy had undercarriage problems and after attempting the free the landing gear, it did a graceful approach (well, as much as an Argosy could) and executed belly landing on the grass strip. The Capt was a very well-known pilot, Bob Guard who was famously invovled in the Kaikoura UFO incidents in late 1978/early 1979. Nothing for me to do apart from taking some pictures for my album. Now where are those pics...?
A little later in the year we had an Airshow and there was a parachuting display. One of the 'chutes candled and there was an audible gasp across the crowd as the chute descended and then impacted. Fortunately, the jumper managed to cut away and descend on his reserve, as part of a group display, so it wasn't immediately apparent to onlookers that the chute was free (it was over the other side of the airfield). It was, for me as a 24 year old Fg Off, the first really stomach-churning moment of my life.
A little later in the year we had an Airshow and there was a parachuting display. One of the 'chutes candled and there was an audible gasp across the crowd as the chute descended and then impacted. Fortunately, the jumper managed to cut away and descend on his reserve, as part of a group display, so it wasn't immediately apparent to onlookers that the chute was free (it was over the other side of the airfield). It was, for me as a 24 year old Fg Off, the first really stomach-churning moment of my life.
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The collision of the Vintage Pair Meteor and Vampire at the 1986 Mildenhall Air Fete. Seeing two good chutes made everyone feel better and it wasn't until that evening that I found out that there were two aboard each aircraft.
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Photos: De Havilland DH-115 Vampire T11 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
Ramstein in 1988 was far worse.
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Photos: Aermacchi MB-339PAN Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
The Mig-29 collision at Fairford was miraculous in the low number of injuries. (And I was quite impressed by the Patrioulle Suisse taking off for their performance 20 minutes after watching Fulcrums rain down around them!) No pictures of that because I was videoing.
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Photos: De Havilland DH-115 Vampire T11 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
Ramstein in 1988 was far worse.
Photos: Aermacchi MB-339PAN Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
Photos: Aermacchi MB-339PAN Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
The Mig-29 collision at Fairford was miraculous in the low number of injuries. (And I was quite impressed by the Patrioulle Suisse taking off for their performance 20 minutes after watching Fulcrums rain down around them!) No pictures of that because I was videoing.
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I watched a Bulldog spin-in into Southport beach, 1977 IIRC, and then another landed alongside and nosed over on the sand. I thought they were models and neither looked for nor saw 'chutes, but I believe the 'spinner' was abandoned by the crew.
Saw a Frecce Tricolori Fiat G91 stoof at Mildenhall in about 79 - RIP. The Frecce display continued afterwards. All very surreal.
I witnessed a Canberra B2 suffer v low altitude asymetric power at Stornoway in 1979 at which time the pilot chopped the throttles leveled the wings and started "Our father.....". The aircraft missed the ILS by about 15` and damage was limited to shock loading the undercarriage when it turned onto the taxiway after a journey across the grass.
I was one of the first post 747 crash at Lockerbie which was probably worse than watching it.
Saw a Frecce Tricolori Fiat G91 stoof at Mildenhall in about 79 - RIP. The Frecce display continued afterwards. All very surreal.
I witnessed a Canberra B2 suffer v low altitude asymetric power at Stornoway in 1979 at which time the pilot chopped the throttles leveled the wings and started "Our father.....". The aircraft missed the ILS by about 15` and damage was limited to shock loading the undercarriage when it turned onto the taxiway after a journey across the grass.
I was one of the first post 747 crash at Lockerbie which was probably worse than watching it.
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OK. Lighten up. All survived but it was spectacular.
Finningley (68?) I was walking along the peri track by the Finningley 8 on the run between ECMSDF in the electronics block and BCDU HQ behind 1 hangar when the Vulcan which was starting up started to collapse.
The crew chief, who was underneath the wing, tried a couple of runs with the aircraft coming down on top of him but eventually got out before it squashed him. Then the aircraft broke into three; the canopy blew off; and the crew vaulted over the windscreen, slid down the nose coaming and off the refuelling probe and hightailed it for the armoury
Finningley (68?) I was walking along the peri track by the Finningley 8 on the run between ECMSDF in the electronics block and BCDU HQ behind 1 hangar when the Vulcan which was starting up started to collapse.
The crew chief, who was underneath the wing, tried a couple of runs with the aircraft coming down on top of him but eventually got out before it squashed him. Then the aircraft broke into three; the canopy blew off; and the crew vaulted over the windscreen, slid down the nose coaming and off the refuelling probe and hightailed it for the armoury
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Good point, Shack. However, most posters, on this thread, seem to be pretty respectful. Accidents are an ever present element of aviation. Sadly that's how we make it better.
We have to be free to talk about accidents.
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We have to be free to talk about accidents.
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