Korean Zulus and WIldcat maybe?
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Korean Zulus and WIldcat maybe?
Interesting developments in RoK and if all works out well for the first then maybe Wildcat's first export customer? The Danes picked the MH-60R instead of the Wildcat offered as both were in the final selection.
Wildcat Drops In On Warship During Trade Visit | Royal Navy
The RoK navy has a few Super Lynx in its inventory for the last few years.
DSCA reports $2.6B helicopter request - UPI.com
Wildcat Drops In On Warship During Trade Visit | Royal Navy
The RoK navy has a few Super Lynx in its inventory for the last few years.
DSCA reports $2.6B helicopter request - UPI.com
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RoK has selected the Wildcat
Not flown either, but on the face of it the Wildcat is a lot of money for not a lot of helicopter. I'd have gone for the 60 any time! No brainer
Of course, these figures include sustainment, support and training etc so it's hard to compare like-for-like in terms of unit costs, but I would say it provides a pretty good indication that the Wildcat appears to be a bit of a bargain compared to the Seahawk.
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"Not flown either, but on the face of it the Wildcat is a lot of money for not a lot of helicopter. I'd have gone for the 60 any time! No brainer"
And that's what is so valuable about Pprune, the educated debate...
Never let your complete lack of knowledge on the matter stand in the way of putting forth an opinion.
"Not flown either, but on the face of it the Wildcat is a lot of money for not a lot of helicopter. I'd have gone for the 60 any time! No brainer"
And that's what is so valuable about Pprune, the educated debate...
Never let your complete lack of knowledge on the matter stand in the way of putting forth an opinion.
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Tourist, I suppose the clouding of my judgment stems from my experiences of AW as a military aviator operating two of their supported aircraft. The 9A was a great fix initially.......now as time is going on......it doesn't appear so good.....AW support....bollards to be frank.
Good friends on the WC programme are still experiencing problems with the C of G of the aircraft that we had two years ago on the 9A in almost identical situations.
We knew the fixes then (we worked the CG out ourselves and found the figures from AW misleading at best.....)
Yes the Lynx flies well.......but even with technology advances.....how much more can you get out of it!
You will say the -60 model is as old.....if not older. Maybe, but look at the opening spec required from the US Army.....and you will see things there introduced in the 1970's that were nowhere near a Lynx then.
Jobs to UK industry does not always mean best product
Good friends on the WC programme are still experiencing problems with the C of G of the aircraft that we had two years ago on the 9A in almost identical situations.
We knew the fixes then (we worked the CG out ourselves and found the figures from AW misleading at best.....)
Yes the Lynx flies well.......but even with technology advances.....how much more can you get out of it!
You will say the -60 model is as old.....if not older. Maybe, but look at the opening spec required from the US Army.....and you will see things there introduced in the 1970's that were nowhere near a Lynx then.
Jobs to UK industry does not always mean best product
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I think you are using your experience of the Lynx as an AH influence your belief in its abilities as a Maritime helicopter.
The Green Lynx has always been a bit of an oddity due to it being procured purely to give jobs to Westlands, hence nobody else bought it.
It is too small for useful amounts of troops, too vulnerable to be a real AH, too complex to keep servicable etc.
That does not mean that the maritime version is anything other than a fantastic helicopter. Flawed in many areas yes, but there simply is no competitor. It sells all round the world for a reason. It is a world beater.
The Seahawk is a great helicopter too, and I loved flying it, but they are poles apart. You might as well compare the C130 and the C17. They do not really do the same role.
The Seahawk is a Seaking replacement-merlin/NH90 competitor not a lynx replacement/wildcat competitor.
It suggest to me that the Koreans didn't really know what they wanted if both of those helicopters met the initial requirements.
The Green Lynx has always been a bit of an oddity due to it being procured purely to give jobs to Westlands, hence nobody else bought it.
It is too small for useful amounts of troops, too vulnerable to be a real AH, too complex to keep servicable etc.
That does not mean that the maritime version is anything other than a fantastic helicopter. Flawed in many areas yes, but there simply is no competitor. It sells all round the world for a reason. It is a world beater.
The Seahawk is a great helicopter too, and I loved flying it, but they are poles apart. You might as well compare the C130 and the C17. They do not really do the same role.
The Seahawk is a Seaking replacement-merlin/NH90 competitor not a lynx replacement/wildcat competitor.
It suggest to me that the Koreans didn't really know what they wanted if both of those helicopters met the initial requirements.
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Ralphmalph
Tourist, I suppose the clouding of my judgment stems from my experiences of
AW as a military aviator operating two of their supported aircraft. The 9A was a
great fix initially.......now as time is going on......it doesn't appear so
good.....AW support....bollards to be frank.
Tourist, I suppose the clouding of my judgment stems from my experiences of
AW as a military aviator operating two of their supported aircraft. The 9A was a
great fix initially.......now as time is going on......it doesn't appear so
good.....AW support....bollards to be frank.
It does so in the face of operational evidence , even though AW (and WHL before them) tell them that more is needed, but the PT's don't have the money, VSO's would rather have a large paper capability than a small one (in all arms) so won't tell the politicians the truth and, whilst there are votes in jobs in Yeovil they are only there for headline activities like production. As a result we end up with hollow forces.
That's defence, live with it!
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