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I repeat, if uniform has to be worn, this is next to useless
I can confirm that "CCF Wednesday" still exists in Main Building. I think uniform all the time is long overdue for all personnel in London. In recent years I have travelled in uniform numerous times by both civair and train and it has never been an issue. In a previous life I was lucky enough to have to attend NATO meetings in a number of capitals/MODs and I was always the one incorrectly dressed in a suit rather than uniform.
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Perhaps its an impact statement; and by that I mean it sounds good when discussed in a sound bite, but the reality is more than disappointing. A pithy gesture from a government, struggling to incentivise the electorate mid-term? Are they becoming worried that the military covenant is frayed beyond recognition? Perhaps. No matter what the motivation I agree that it is badly implemented as those who will benefit from it the most are the ones who work in London and would be willing to commute in 'rig'. The majority of HM Armed Forces don't work there, won't work there and certainly wouldn't willingly travel around there in uniform just for a free Zone 1 pass.
I bet the option for non-uniform travel was on the table but they looked at the projected cost and decided perhaps they had better stump up the cash for the Bomber Command Memorial instead. At least that was news-worthy and a triumph of common sense.
I bet the option for non-uniform travel was on the table but they looked at the projected cost and decided perhaps they had better stump up the cash for the Bomber Command Memorial instead. At least that was news-worthy and a triumph of common sense.
can people genuinely not see the security risk
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Its good to see the uniform worn smartly in the public eye and the troops who wear it to the shops these days do so with a sense of self awareness and spring in their step that my 'generation' didn't generally have - and probably with good reason. I was at Odiham this week and felt like a crusty old fart when I caught myself actually feeling pleased to see so much smartness on display!/QUOTE]
I hope Al R wont mind me quoting him from a post he put on this thread that I started a few years back. I think that's the point -if the troops are going to be travelling gratis on the tube (and I still can't see the justification for it) then at least let's hope that they dont commit some of the sartorial offences referred to on the thread! Oh, and hats on once you're out of the train please!
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Its good to see the uniform worn smartly in the public eye and the troops who wear it to the shops these days do so with a sense of self awareness and spring in their step that my 'generation' didn't generally have - and probably with good reason. I was at Odiham this week and felt like a crusty old fart when I caught myself actually feeling pleased to see so much smartness on display!/QUOTE]
I hope Al R wont mind me quoting him from a post he put on this thread that I started a few years back. I think that's the point -if the troops are going to be travelling gratis on the tube (and I still can't see the justification for it) then at least let's hope that they dont commit some of the sartorial offences referred to on the thread! Oh, and hats on once you're out of the train please!
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Maybe they should stop sending people to get their limbs blown off in far away lands for reasons that don't concern us. Just an idea like, and it will save a few quid too.
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I think this could be a really good idea for the army and the navy, but a bit less so for the RAF.
It wont be any fun for an RAF bod to have worked all day and then be pestered on the journey home in the mistaken belief that they work for the RAC and can give out free motoring advice
It wont be any fun for an RAF bod to have worked all day and then be pestered on the journey home in the mistaken belief that they work for the RAC and can give out free motoring advice
Or the navy being pestered and asked where the Village People are appearing on stage!
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Up until recently I wore uniform in and around London on a regular basis, even on the train to Shabby Wood and back and I never had one single incident. The only slight annoynace is the amount of times you get asked for directions, but there again isn't that a sign of the trust that the general population put in those in uniform.
We are riding the crest of the Olympic wave, so why not enjoy wearing uniform in public instead of bitching and moaning about it.
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We are riding the crest of the Olympic wave, so why not enjoy wearing uniform in public instead of bitching and moaning about it.
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BlindWingy I repeat - if uniform has to be worn, this is next to useless.
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I think uniform all the time is long overdue for all personnel in London.
so why not enjoy wearing uniform in public instead of bitching and moaning about it.
or can people genuinely not see the security risk?
Good idea, though really want to be in the carraige when some scroat starts abusing someone in Uniform, will ask him / her to remove jacket so I can hold it and then happy to be one of the witnesses to outline how the scroats beat each other up.
If they need a hand then someone else will just have to hold the jacket
If they need a hand then someone else will just have to hold the jacket
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I well remember whilst on a weekend pass during basic training at RAF Swinderby in 1979. As an 18 year old AC Bloggs; we had to travel in No1 uniform! I recall alighting a tube train alone at Waterloo to change to a good old British Rail service. I saw to my horror approximately 20 punk rocker types on the platform and thought to myself here we go!
I got plenty of looks; but they didn't say a word! Quite surprising really.
I got plenty of looks; but they didn't say a word! Quite surprising really.
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....once had the embarrassment of riding on the tube in flying kit. We has delivered a Victor to St Athan for a major but the flight back to Maham was cancelled (Wx ,I think). In those days, if you were not picking up an aircraft post major, 'Lindholme Air' would send a Hastings to collect you or one of the Comm Sqns would send a Devon.
Anyway, we asked for MT but were refused and given railway warrants instead. So four of us in sweaty flying overalls and carrying all our kit boarded British Rail at Cardiff. We got some strange looks on the tube - people may have thought we were cleaners coming off shift.
....should have got a taxi for the cross London bit, but we knew we would never get our money back
Anyway, we asked for MT but were refused and given railway warrants instead. So four of us in sweaty flying overalls and carrying all our kit boarded British Rail at Cardiff. We got some strange looks on the tube - people may have thought we were cleaners coming off shift.
....should have got a taxi for the cross London bit, but we knew we would never get our money back
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Its good to see the uniform worn smartly in the public eye and the troops who
wear it to the shops these days do so with a sense of self awareness and spring
in their step that my 'generation' didn't generally have - and probably with
good reason. I was at Odiham this week and felt like a crusty old fart when I
caught myself actually feeling pleased to see so much smartness on display
