The South China Sea's Gathering Storm
I think that's always been their position - actual Independence is an absolute red line for Beijing
No need to declare anything as they’ve always been independent. China is daring them to do something that is not even on the agenda.
Hope no Taiwanese politician falls for this tempting but meaningless false-flag bait.
Hope no Taiwanese politician falls for this tempting but meaningless false-flag bait.
The CCP's Position on Taiwan is not consistent
And an important point here - what do the Taiwanese people want?
Last edited by Load Toad; 14th Jun 2022 at 03:17. Reason: Added clarity
The CCP were in a different position in 1943 to 1933 - they reckoned they Japanese were definitely going to lose and they were definitely going to win..On the rights of the Taiwanese people to self determination there are many cases of people gaining independence (Bangladesh, Ireland, USA) and many were they have failed (Confederated States, the Boers, Tamil Tigers). There are no accepted rules.
'Interesting' development... (article in the lunchtime edition of The Times).
China sets up US conflict by laying claim to Taiwan Strait
China sets up US conflict by laying claim to Taiwan Strait
FoN ops just got a little more dicey. I am reminded of the never ending scraps between Turkey and Greece in re international waters in the eastern Aegean, based on which rock is claimed by whom.
Looking forward to the first carrier transit through the Strait and B-52 overflight which is probably being planned as we speak!
The military equivalent of a raised finger...
The military equivalent of a raised finger...
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-s...-a-week-2018-9
Either Buff or Bone seems to be the aerial symbol of choice.
I may be wholly biased, but I think the Bone is a nicer looking aircraft. If you are gonna swagger, swagger with style. 
True... it is an impressive piece of kit.
That said the B-52 says big, bad and scary like few other aircraft.
The statement by China bodes ill for the RAAF and RAN I reckon.
They'll think twice about arguing with the `states on the water or in the air - but won't hesitate to bully little Australia.
The next incident will be more than chaff.
All it'll take is another hot-headed Chinese fast jet pilot - and we'll have a Hainan type mid-air collision and forced landing type scenario again - or worse.
That said the B-52 says big, bad and scary like few other aircraft.
The statement by China bodes ill for the RAAF and RAN I reckon.
They'll think twice about arguing with the `states on the water or in the air - but won't hesitate to bully little Australia.
The next incident will be more than chaff.
All it'll take is another hot-headed Chinese fast jet pilot - and we'll have a Hainan type mid-air collision and forced landing type scenario again - or worse.
Despite the PLA desperately trying to change their training culture to create more autonomous and creative combat pilots in the last decade, the aggressive hassling of Western ferret flights would be calculated and ordered from well above.
I agree with Tartare. It seems only a matter of time before a shoot down. Plenty of history in the early days of PLA shooting down airliners, ferret flights and stray US combat aircraft during the Vietnam war
I agree with Tartare. It seems only a matter of time before a shoot down. Plenty of history in the early days of PLA shooting down airliners, ferret flights and stray US combat aircraft during the Vietnam war
Gung Hō by name and gung-ho by nature?
"That said the B-52 says big, bad and scary like few other aircraft."
its also one of the few known to "the man in the street" across the world. Send a B1 or B2 and people just think "another aeroplane"
Send a B-52 and the world thinks Dr. Strangelove, Vietnam, Iraq
Symbolic but symbols are what you want when people start playing up thinking they might get away with things
its also one of the few known to "the man in the street" across the world. Send a B1 or B2 and people just think "another aeroplane"
Send a B-52 and the world thinks Dr. Strangelove, Vietnam, Iraq
Symbolic but symbols are what you want when people start playing up thinking they might get away with things
The B1 no longer has a nuclear role, the Chinese know that. Now the B52 on the other hand does, the Chinese know that as well. Lose a couple of buildings vs lose a city is the difference in aircraft and in messaging.
In that context it’s not just Russia using nuclear threats.
China does it too, and DPRK has just about joined the club.
China does it too, and DPRK has just about joined the club.
Two more have joined the five. Seven Russian navy ships spotted today off the north east coast of Japan. More to join in.
Quote: “Russia's Defense Ministry announced that it will conduct the large-scale military exercises in the Pacific from June 3, with around 40 Pacific Fleet vessels and others taking part.”
https://www.nippon.com/en/news/yjj2022061000600/amp/#
Better than average chance that the Chinese will join in, I wager.
Quote: “Russia's Defense Ministry announced that it will conduct the large-scale military exercises in the Pacific from June 3, with around 40 Pacific Fleet vessels and others taking part.”
https://www.nippon.com/en/news/yjj2022061000600/amp/#
Better than average chance that the Chinese will join in, I wager.
Mid - summer - good to get out on the water......................