Old Ironsides Deploys to Sea Again!
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Old Ironsides Deploys to Sea Again!
The oldest operational Warship in the World....Wood Timbers, Canvas sails, and yet a new generation of Sailors....amazing tradition and history.
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OK - canvas sails I'll accept, but what else would wood timbers be made of?
She seems to be making decent headway, given that the canvas sails are fairly slack, or is there a boat pushing from behind, or an invisible cable towing from in front (note the use of traditional naval terms - behind and front). Perhaps they've refurbished the original inboard Perkins diesel to save wear and tear on the sails and all the associated ropes that hold them up
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She seems to be making decent headway, given that the canvas sails are fairly slack, or is there a boat pushing from behind, or an invisible cable towing from in front (note the use of traditional naval terms - behind and front). Perhaps they've refurbished the original inboard Perkins diesel to save wear and tear on the sails and all the associated ropes that hold them up
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Ignore salad-dodger! Thanks for posting such a wonderful photo. I see she's flying her battle ensign - obviously preparing for a battle with the Colonialist Navy!
If she has got a Perkins diesel below decks, Jack Aubrey will be in for a surprise when he tries to take the weather gauge.
Ignore salad-dodger! Thanks for posting such a wonderful photo. I see she's flying her battle ensign - obviously preparing for a battle with the Colonialist Navy!
If she has got a Perkins diesel below decks, Jack Aubrey will be in for a surprise when he tries to take the weather gauge.
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Old Ironsides Timbers
White Oak.
Hull Planking specification is 32 foot clear oak.
Oak is custom grown at the Navy's base at Crane Indiana.
Boston Navy Yard does its own custom sawing using a Woodmizer portable mill last I heard.
Hull Planking specification is 32 foot clear oak.
Oak is custom grown at the Navy's base at Crane Indiana.
Boston Navy Yard does its own custom sawing using a Woodmizer portable mill last I heard.
I notice in photo 8/12 that all the hands are wearing safety harnesses on the yard arms - bloody farmers the lot of 'em!
Here's how we used to do it - me top left.
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If she has got a Perkins diesel below decks, Jack Aubrey will be in for a surprise when he tries to take the weather gauge
When I toured Old Ironsides the commanding office was a woman. A Lt. Commander if I remember correctly.
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"The oldest operational Warship in the World"
Methinks not.
If you mean commisioned, then HMS Victory has that by a good few years.
If you actually mean operational, then neither is even remotely qualified.
Methinks not.
If you mean commisioned, then HMS Victory has that by a good few years.
If you actually mean operational, then neither is even remotely qualified.
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Eat your heart out....she's underway, in full service...doing her duty. I know it gets up your nose our old girl is not mired in the mud rotting to death...but it is what it is.
She is beautiful....has a long history...and is still doing the deal after Two Hundred Years. New Chiefs get their Initiations done onboard....including Aviation Chiefs which I find commendable to see the Navy reminding the backbone of the Fleet what their service is all about.
She's not just a showboat...but a cornerstone of the Navy.
Bless her and all that sail on her!
She is beautiful....has a long history...and is still doing the deal after Two Hundred Years. New Chiefs get their Initiations done onboard....including Aviation Chiefs which I find commendable to see the Navy reminding the backbone of the Fleet what their service is all about.
She's not just a showboat...but a cornerstone of the Navy.
Bless her and all that sail on her!
HMS Victory serves a very similar purpose and remains the flagship of our navy. HMS Fordroyant is still afloat and older than old Ironsides up in Hartlepool
In fact....we do have old Ironsides sister ship still just outside Pompey.
The Chesapeake Mill - history
In fact....we do have old Ironsides sister ship still just outside Pompey.
The Chesapeake Mill - history
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In full service, doing her duty...
Can we then expect to see this beautifully presented vessel being deployed to a conflict zone, where the full might of her 50 cannon could wreak havoc on a hostile naval force?
She serves a purpose - much as the 3-masted topsail schooners of our Sail Training Association used to do - building character, teaching teamwork and resilience, often in testing weather conditions; but more than that, I don't think so.
A good historical link for a bygone USN, and probably an excellent ambassador in domestic and foreign ports, but I suspect that the crew spend as much time painting and polishing as they do sailing.
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Can we then expect to see this beautifully presented vessel being deployed to a conflict zone, where the full might of her 50 cannon could wreak havoc on a hostile naval force?
She serves a purpose - much as the 3-masted topsail schooners of our Sail Training Association used to do - building character, teaching teamwork and resilience, often in testing weather conditions; but more than that, I don't think so.
A good historical link for a bygone USN, and probably an excellent ambassador in domestic and foreign ports, but I suspect that the crew spend as much time painting and polishing as they do sailing.
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mired in the mud rotting to death
She's not just a showboat...but a cornerstone of the Navy.
Indeed both VICTORY and USS CONSTITUTION are in their respective navies, although somehow the Ship of Theseus or, perhaps at a lower level, Trigger's Broom come readily to mind.
Jack
PS And I have very fine oil paintings of both of them
Indeed both VICTORY and USS CONSTITUTION are in their respective navies, although somehow the Ship of Theseus or, perhaps at a lower level, Trigger's Broom come readily to mind.
Jack
PS And I have very fine oil paintings of both of them
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HMS Fordroyant is still afloat
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I think you will find that the Victory is still carrying out the Royal Navy's principle operational role....
....magnificent cocktail parties and dining outs!
....magnificent cocktail parties and dining outs!
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