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True, but unfortunately there are many who are opposed to Britain's involvement in military action outside the UK and this simply gives them another reason to gripe. I can understand that the noise might be intrusive but they were probably not forced to live near an air base.
RAF Brize Norton has yet to comment on the figures.
As far as I'm aware, some of the earlier noise complaints were caused by the 'droning noise' of extended ground running, but others were because, contrary to the FOB, the C-130 was initially being flown at lower levels in the visual circuit - which was pointed out by the locals at some meeting they had with the RAF. The latter point was resolved, but when the C-130 is being caned to death by operations it's hardly surprising that maintenance is necessary at anti-social hours.
As was explained to some WODC councillors recently, you cannot simply back a C-130 onto a de-tuner as you can a VC10 (or, in the case of one tug driver who wasn't aware that the K3 was longer than the C1 and K2, actually into the detuner...
), neither can engines be tested inside a hangar (another WODC councillor's query...
).It would be interesting to see whether the pattern of nosie complaints has changed - I suspect that it has after the station introduced measures to reduce the impact upon the local population.
Anyway, at least the Voyager is extremely quiet on the approach. Whereas a TriStar, C-130 or C-17 might make people look up and a VC10 will probably waken the dead, the Voyager is almost inaudible.
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"According to BBC Radio Oxford, they were promised a written response from Brize by 0700 this morning, but 'nothing has been received'....."
Did no-one tell the Beeb that it was the weekend and officers will be back at their desks at 1200 today, Monday.....................
Did no-one tell the Beeb that it was the weekend and officers will be back at their desks at 1200 today, Monday.....................
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NIMBYS the lot of them. Complaining about noise from the Hercules is a joke. Most people in this Country would be pleased to have a Hercules fly around them.
32 Hercules would indeed mean more noise. So how is the local economy benefitting from the influx of the hundreds of Herc folks. Any complaints about that? Thought not.
32 Hercules would indeed mean more noise. So how is the local economy benefitting from the influx of the hundreds of Herc folks. Any complaints about that? Thought not.
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Rebecca Whiteman, who lives in nearby village Black Bourton, said the noise, including ground running engines during the night, was "totally unacceptable."
She said: "We appreciate it is defence and we knew the Hercules were coming but there was no warning about the noise."
Ms Whiteman, who has lived in the village for 14 years,
Enough said, the base, and flying machines have been there HOW long ?
It'll be those noisy church bells next, disturbing the peace on a Sunday morning.
She said: "We appreciate it is defence and we knew the Hercules were coming but there was no warning about the noise."
Ms Whiteman, who has lived in the village for 14 years,
Enough said, the base, and flying machines have been there HOW long ?
It'll be those noisy church bells next, disturbing the peace on a Sunday morning.
Nice to see the usual local support for the people that keep them safe.
As I said, now that the RAF has introduced a few changes in the policy for ground-running and visual circuit flying, I expect that the level of complaints has reduced from the original flood.
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Of the 958 complaints how many were repeats by the same vociferous minority who were content to take advantage of lower house prices in the area without considering why they were lower? Unless they moved there before 1938 they should just shut up.
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Compulsory purchase their houses for additional married quarters... Problem solved.
The only time I was annoyed by Herc noise was when one of the AC130's was orbiting Watton airfield from first dark to about 0300 one morning. Couldn't sleep, but never had that trouble at Lyneham even when engine running on the Calne strip!
Could go to sleep if it started, never woke me up and the sound of the Hercs on Watton airfield brought several bursts of nostalgia.
Shame it's been declared surplus now, no more HALOs, no more Hercs that I felt I could just reach out and touch just in front of my house when downwind, just plain no more.
Dunno what they're complaining about, i found the sound comforting in a strange way.
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PS, never made complaint about the AC130 because I had an idea what it was practising for and troops covered/lives saved are well worth a couple of lost nights sleep.
Could go to sleep if it started, never woke me up and the sound of the Hercs on Watton airfield brought several bursts of nostalgia.
Shame it's been declared surplus now, no more HALOs, no more Hercs that I felt I could just reach out and touch just in front of my house when downwind, just plain no more.
Dunno what they're complaining about, i found the sound comforting in a strange way.
Doc C
PS, never made complaint about the AC130 because I had an idea what it was practising for and troops covered/lives saved are well worth a couple of lost nights sleep.
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PS, never made complaint about the AC130 because I had an idea what it was practising for and troops covered/lives saved are well worth a couple of lost nights sleep.
If they want to come up my way, in stream, all of them, bring it on! Seen yet another wokka, more than welcome anytime.
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It used to bug the crap out of me that were not allowed to run the Tens during the night because of the locals that had moved next to a bloody airfield and then complained about aircraft noise... 
Even the Station Commander got into the act and we had a running ban during Church Parade in force... We thought one time when we got told we couldn't run, if we can't beat them, then join them, and we all turfed up to church in our line clothes... Sadly Gods right hand man wasn't have any of it and we were refused entry... One hopes St Peter will be a bit more forgiving in the future.
My last Ground Run in the RAF I did a VIP during God Slot and because it was on a Royal I had permission to do a low power run.... I had them up at full chat
and OC Ops ended up wanting a chat as the Staish wasn't happy, but with a day to do there wasn't a lot they could do 
Even the Station Commander got into the act and we had a running ban during Church Parade in force... We thought one time when we got told we couldn't run, if we can't beat them, then join them, and we all turfed up to church in our line clothes... Sadly Gods right hand man wasn't have any of it and we were refused entry... One hopes St Peter will be a bit more forgiving in the future.
My last Ground Run in the RAF I did a VIP during God Slot and because it was on a Royal I had permission to do a low power run.... I had them up at full chat
and OC Ops ended up wanting a chat as the Staish wasn't happy, but with a day to do there wasn't a lot they could do
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Noisy Hercs
Local TV news (Oxford) at teatime, one local resident living in Black Bourton spouting on how noisy the Hercules was, quoted:
"that they have to run at full power for 40 minutes before taking off making life intolerable in our village".
Just where do they find these cretins to interview, surely in the area there are many more noteworthy people to put forward a more sensible & balanced view than the village idiots they find to put in front of the camera.
Rgds, Paul H ( 7 years at BZN on Brits & VC10's & 1 year at Lyneham on C130 as an engineer, been there , done that).
"that they have to run at full power for 40 minutes before taking off making life intolerable in our village".
Just where do they find these cretins to interview, surely in the area there are many more noteworthy people to put forward a more sensible & balanced view than the village idiots they find to put in front of the camera.
Rgds, Paul H ( 7 years at BZN on Brits & VC10's & 1 year at Lyneham on C130 as an engineer, been there , done that).