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Old 28th Jun 2019, 08:36
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Originally Posted by tubby linton
Copies of the letters were found in Abwehr records in Berlin after the end of the war .The major’s identity has never been proved with a recent thought being that he was one of the dead from the loss of the converted carrier HMS Dasher.
I thought it had pretty well established (and, indeed, confirmed by HMG) that the body used was that of Glyndwr Michael:

https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/c...hael,-glyndwr/

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Interesting piece by Ben Macintyre about Op Mincemeat appeared in the Sun earlier this week here:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/936520...ion-of-sicily/
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A few years back it was proposed that another body had been chosen for the Operation Mincemeat deception, a seaman from HMS Dasher which had sunk in the Clyde following an explosion. The corpse of Glyndwr Michael was several weeks old before having to be transported to Spain packed in dry ice aboard a submarine. Any pathologist could have inferred that the body had been refrigerated and was three months old than the week it was supposed to be, never mind the rat poison in the stomach. So a young seaman may rest under Major Martin's headstone in Huelva, while Michael the unfortunate tramp is honoured beneath an RN headstone in Ardrossan Cemetery.
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Old 4th Jul 2019, 18:59
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Captivep:-

I thought it had pretty well established (and, indeed, confirmed by HMG) that the body used was that of Glyndwr Michael
In all likelihood we'll probably never know for sure. Geriaviator is correct, there was indeed speculation that 'Major Martin' was a victim of the explosion on HMS Dasher, offering a more convincing corpse than that of Michael. The transhipment onto HMS Seraph was via Scotland anyway, but the ID docs would have needed to reflect the 'new' man. No doubt it could be done, and given the national security implications involved, if it was done then the only evidence of it left would be in their respective graves. Hopefully they will remain there, undisturbed. Some stories are better left with a perpetual question mark hanging over them....
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Originally Posted by Chugalug2
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In all likelihood we'll probably never know for sure. Geriaviator is correct, there was indeed speculation that 'Major Martin' was a victim of the explosion on HMS Dasher, offering a more convincing corpse than that of Michael. The transhipment onto HMS Seraph was via Scotland anyway, but the ID docs would have needed to reflect the 'new' man. No doubt it could be done, and given the national security implications involved, if it was done then the only evidence of it left would be in their respective graves. Hopefully they will remain there, undisturbed. Some stories are better left with a perpetual question mark hanging over them....
How interesting! As a friend of mine is wont to say, every day's a schoolday...

However, as you say, whatever the truth they both deserve to remain undisturbed, at peace.
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Ben Macintyre's book Ben Macintyre's book
, first published 2010, provides a very thorough detailing of the operation.
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