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Old 22nd May 2012, 12:54
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You can feel for the Australian premier when his aircraft was trumped by the New Zealand premier's aircraft at a SEA conference.
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Old 22nd May 2012, 13:01
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I would love to see our Monarch using something like an A330 for her travels and it would of course dovetail with our fleet of voyagers. Unfortunately the rabid press would have a field day as they did with the proposals for Blair Force One some years ago.
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Old 22nd May 2012, 13:15
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The 'Blair Force One' outrage was because that gurning little $hit Bliar had wanted it for himself.

There should be a VVIP flight operating a couple of A319CJs routinely, plus a VVIP role fit for the Voyager, in my view.

The Luftwaffe's Flugbereitschaft des Bundesministeriums der Verteidigung uses 2 A319CJs and 2 A340s for VIP work; the UK will have the use of ATrS' Voyagers, but a couple of A319CJs could well prove useful.
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Old 22nd May 2012, 13:43
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Canada, a proper country.

Like America but, without the everyman needs a gun culture, but they have health care...
Mini, I think Canada has a higher proportion of its population that are gun owners than the USA. They just don't seem to murder each other as often with them. See 'Bowling for Columbine' for details.
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So perhaps that mean's I am recalled?

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They could resurect a comet, the Royal fit on that was very nice, had to airtest one in the fit and was impressed with it.
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Old 22nd May 2012, 21:59
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The CC150's VVIP fit is certainly not over the top, but thankfully the CO a few years ago managed to resist a move (from within DND) to have it removed in order to free up more 'regular' seating for when it's not being used for VVIP trips. I recall that it involved a quick call to the Director of Royal Travel....

At the time, the Prime Minister (Chretien) wouldn't fly in it as he was in opposition when it was commissioned and would spend hours in a Club seat under a blanket! The benefit was that we would use it on the low yield trips, including (long-since defunct) route trainers!

I flew to a number of G8s & the like and was always disappointed that the UK was (is) always the only nation without VVIP transport as one of its core military roles. As BEagle points out, configuring one of the Voyagers would fill the gap and would surely be cheaper than contracting out BA/Virgin however many times a year. To be honest, even if MoD were to contract ATr (rather than BA etc) to provide the aircraft, they might at least look like they were Brit Mil operated!

Oh, and for the record on repatriations, ratty1....

That picture posted by Fox3 was run on the front page of the Daily Mail a few years ago in sharp contrast to the way that Thames Valley Police viewed escorting the repatriations as a 'non-essential' duty, and thus, didn't, resulting in images like this:



Thankfully, this caused them to, ahem, review the policy.
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Old 22nd May 2012, 22:14
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resulting in images like this:
What a terrible image, I hope it's only a "snapshot" of the the bigger picture.

If not, we should hang our heads in shame.
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Old 22nd May 2012, 22:48
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Just to confirm, this was 4 years ago - TVP have seen sense and now provide a full escort. The full story:

Pictures that should shame us all reveal the shabby way Britain treats its fallen heroes | Mail Online

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looks like the hearses are parked to me
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I can rember that Lee Kuan Yew always traveled Business Class on a scheduled SIA flight when he was PM of Singapore - never saw the need for anything else
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ooks like the hearses are parked to me
That's the trouble with a forum, one can never judge the tone of a comment, and thus the underlying feeling.

However, having ploughed the Oxford ring road for 3 years, I can guarantee that they are stuck in traffic; I could probably tell you the exact spot (it's where 2 lanes off the Wolvercote roundabout become one, just after the pelican crossing)
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I guess Lee Kuan Yew was very lucky then that he was never required to go anywhere that SIA didn't fly to...!

I don't think that many VIP transports nowadays are there for pure opulence, rather the flexibility your own aircraft brings.
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