Second Chinese stealth fighter flies
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China has just purchased a huge station (farm) with the biggest water rights in Australia as per their policy of buying up resources.
Once China gets something right and decides to mass produce, the speed they seem to be able to do it is mind boggling. They may well have quality and quantity in the future !
They own so much US debt, probably not wise for them to cause problems
for the next few years.
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Once China gets something right and decides to mass produce, the speed they seem to be able to do it is mind boggling. They may well have quality and quantity in the future !
They own so much US debt, probably not wise for them to cause problems
for the next few years.
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Absolutely, Bill. One of the world's greatest fighter pilots painted his triplane bright red. It's saying, "You want a fight? Here I am."
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There's something rather unsporting about stealth, isn't there? Something not quite in keeping with the British tradition of fair play...even less so with the prospect of stealthy UAVs. But it is what it is, and appears to be the unstoppable direction of air warfare; at least we are one of the select number of nations that can afford such capabilities!
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People get too hung up on stealth. It doesn't work at all EM frequencies, otherwise 5G ac would be invisible. It's simply a matter of finding a freq at which the target ac is visible. Isn't it about time the UK invested in some VHF radars?
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this may be a deeply stupid question, but could anyone who has some semblance of understanding of LO aircraft give a prima face view on quite how stealthy this aircraft actually is?
how much of the development of the F-22/F-35/B-2 has actually materialised in this aircraft - and are we really sure that it is a 'runner' in the stealthy world, and not a smoothed-out MiG-31 FOXHOUND painted dark grey?
how much of the development of the F-22/F-35/B-2 has actually materialised in this aircraft - and are we really sure that it is a 'runner' in the stealthy world, and not a smoothed-out MiG-31 FOXHOUND painted dark grey?
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It's not a stupid question, but I suspect that any real assessment of its LO capability is not for discussion on this forum.
However, it is important not to focus simply on the platform itself. True LO performance can only be acheived by massive initial and ongoing investment in the platform. Sometimes it is more cost effective to be 'good enough' in order to get into the fight. At the end of the day, China's fighters may not be as technologically advanced as an F-22, however, there will be an awful lot more of them. Together with good SA provided by frequency diverse sensors, they could still be a potent threat.
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It's not a stupid question, but I suspect that any real assessment of its LO capability is not for discussion on this forum.
However, it is important not to focus simply on the platform itself. True LO performance can only be acheived by massive initial and ongoing investment in the platform. Sometimes it is more cost effective to be 'good enough' in order to get into the fight. At the end of the day, China's fighters may not be as technologically advanced as an F-22, however, there will be an awful lot more of them. Together with good SA provided by frequency diverse sensors, they could still be a potent threat.
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At the end of the day, the US has been building and fielding LO or VLO aircraft since the 1970s (some would say the 1960s if you take the A-12/SR-71 into account), while no one else has gone beyond building a couple of prototypes yet.
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With the American economy and the mighty $ if that were to fail then the economic carnage would be truely catostrophic.
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Doesn't China control the US$ at the moment ?
Although I think they are in a bit of a bind themselves
with just how much US$ they are carrying and can't
afford it to be devalued.
Plus the other big market, Europe isn't exactly booming for them.
We are starting to see a slow down here in Aus related to China
slowing down.
Although I think they are in a bit of a bind themselves
with just how much US$ they are carrying and can't
afford it to be devalued.
Plus the other big market, Europe isn't exactly booming for them.
We are starting to see a slow down here in Aus related to China
slowing down.
Although I think they are in a bit of a bind themselves
with just how much US$ they are carrying and can't
afford it to be devalued.
with just how much US$ they are carrying and can't
afford it to be devalued.
Look at it irrationally, a way of detroying someone else for a generation, not needing to resort to nuclear weapons and all of a sudden it isn't irrational at all.
Nazis invading Russia was irrational, nor was getting bogged down in Stalingrad when if they had ignored it and pushed into mid east a pincer movement closing Suez was a more rational choice.
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IMHO, China became stronger partly on the basis of manufacturing for the US and Europe.
If they destroy one of the major markets, then they are going to cause
some real angst at home and in one of the posts by someone, making
sure that the peasants don't rise up again is one of the big fears of China.
Take away a whole load of jobs etc which they have become accustomed to
and you will get trouble. It is already simmering below the surface.
If China had wanted to put the US in deep do do, the last few years
are when it could have done it very easily - own a hep of US debt, US in recession at the same time as fighting two wars, Wall St crash, wouldn't have taken long to cause a run on the US$.
They could still do it anytime they want as they have already crushed
US Manufacturing, still own heaps of US$.
To quote someone who posted before, China is playing the long game
and has that card still to play in the future if needed.
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IMHO, China became stronger partly on the basis of manufacturing for the US and Europe.
If they destroy one of the major markets, then they are going to cause
some real angst at home and in one of the posts by someone, making
sure that the peasants don't rise up again is one of the big fears of China.
Take away a whole load of jobs etc which they have become accustomed to
and you will get trouble. It is already simmering below the surface.
If China had wanted to put the US in deep do do, the last few years
are when it could have done it very easily - own a hep of US debt, US in recession at the same time as fighting two wars, Wall St crash, wouldn't have taken long to cause a run on the US$.
They could still do it anytime they want as they have already crushed
US Manufacturing, still own heaps of US$.
To quote someone who posted before, China is playing the long game
and has that card still to play in the future if needed.
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Interesting piece on RT about Chinese top military chief on a visit to New Delhi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtMSXwMn_Tk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtMSXwMn_Tk
Son of this fighter collided with airliner?
Did Chinese plane have mid-air crash with UFO? | The Sun |News
Any advances on the second prototype?
Cheers
Any advances on the second prototype?
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