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how to get out the raf regt after a year and 6 months?

Old 10th May 2012, 20:42
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how to get out the raf regt after a year and 6 months?

I have been in the raf regiment a year and 6 months. I now want to leave as it is'nt for me. I have another job lined up so how long would it take for me to get out quickly and what steps do I have to take? If I showed them I had another job lined up could i get out in a matter of a months (shortest possible time)

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Old 10th May 2012, 20:48
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Talk to your HR of your unit. You have got to do payback for your phase 2 training and any other courses you may have done. You will also have to fulfil any OOA commitment you may have to do either formed unit or NFA.. If its to escape going abroad, your chances are slim of a quick get out.
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Old 10th May 2012, 20:48
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Buying your way out was the traditional method and honourable method.

Visiting Colchester is a high risk strategy.

Getting through OASC and passing IOT is a slow route.

Is there anyway of getting out of The Royal Air Force half way throw your service? - Yahoo! UK & Ireland Answers

Drugs seems a pretty good route.
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Old 10th May 2012, 20:52
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I have already done a tour of Afghanistan in this time is that seen as payback for phase 2 training?
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Old 10th May 2012, 20:58
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Drugs seems a pretty good route.
It's not... I recently had a discussion with an ex pongo who had admitted to using drugs when he didn't in order to get out of the Army when he was 19. Now he's older and far more worldly he'd like to get back in... He may or may not be able to depending on circumstances.

Doing drugs or pretending you did is burning all your boats for the future.

As an ex gunner myself albeit a long time ago my opinion is that a quick get-out after 18 months is a no go... Suck it up, make the best of it and learn from it. It will stand you in great stead for the future. I'm lead to believe a previously enlisted Rock is currently in charge of security for the Olympics - you'd be surprised what Rocks go on to do.
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Old 10th May 2012, 21:04
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When I was an RAF Regiment flight commander one of my blokes confessed to me that he was homosexual, and wanted to get out of the service (homosexual acts were a criminal offence even in civvy street then). I was naive and sympathetic and told him I'd see what could be done. I had a quiet word with the squadron WO who told me the bloke was no more homosexual than I was (I wasn't!) and he was just trying to "work his ticket".

Anyway, don't think that reason would work these days - even in the rockapes, so I can't help!

A -A's advice is good - one of my mates left to go into Waitrose as a trainee store manager, and ended up running the whole chain, retiring with a CBE.

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Old 10th May 2012, 21:05
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The agreement you signed up to is stated on the Form 308 when you agreed to accept service, and on the Form 75 which you signed on attestation, both of which you should have copies of. Basically, under normal circumstances, you have a right to apply to end your service before your 9 year point 3 years after you complete your training, giving 18 months notice. In reality, it isn't as straight cut as that; the manning situation will considered etc. (I think regt is under manned at present). Only people who can give you a more definitive answer though is your trade sponsor or drafter.
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Old 10th May 2012, 21:08
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Fail your fitness test?
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Old 10th May 2012, 21:16
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Most of the people i have met who wanted to get out aren't taking advantage of the good stuff* the RAF still has to offer. Get yourself enrolled in some training/education, get some adventurous training sorted and get involved with some sports clubs. If you find you still can't stand it then stick your PVR in and accept it could be a lengthy wait.

In terms of training, education and sports opportunities and leave allowance you will struggle to find a better employer.

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*I appreciate the opportunities are thinning out, but there are still a few there.
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Old 10th May 2012, 21:39
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Sex change?
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Old 10th May 2012, 21:59
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Old 10th May 2012, 22:19
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I would have thought the lie and get discharged for drugs option would scupper your future career prospects.
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Old 11th May 2012, 07:42
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I would have thought the lie and get discharged for drugs option would scupper your future career prospects.
Yes, it will.
OP, you state that you have a job "lined up", but is that a firm offer? It's usually impossible to get a firm offer without them knowing for sure when you're available, which of course you don't know yet.

Then you have to bear in mind that if it's not a firm offer, more of a "could you have a look at this job and get back to us if it interests you" kind of offer, then you'll have at least an interview looming at some point.
The first question any new employer will ask is "why are you leaving your current job?" and if your answer involves drugs, even if it was purely to circumvent the PVR system, the rest of the interview is academic.

Your PSF and your boss are the people you need to be talking to, they're the only ones who can start to sway things and the advice will be more up to date and relevant than any you'll get here.
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Old 11th May 2012, 07:57
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All things being equal, according to the RAF Manning website you will be out in 6 months from actioning your PVR. The link below will only work from a MOD terminal:

http://www.manning.raf.r.mil.uk/revi...ting_times.doc
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Old 11th May 2012, 08:00
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Clearly, the cachet of being 'Special Forces' doesn't appeal to everyone..........
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Old 11th May 2012, 08:11
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However, all things are not equal. PVR is subject to other regulations such as Training Return of Service or, in this case, RAF Terms of Service Regulations that require a minimum of 3 years service from completion of initial training.

There are other options that could be explored; however, these are very much tied to individual circumstances. I would recomend that the OP books an office call with his station's chief clerk in the first instance.
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Old 11th May 2012, 08:33
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While I am not recommending the "drugs" route for mtrad, I have the following question on this approach.

I thought, and someone please correct me if I'm wrong, that all you have to do is refuse to take the CDT, and you were automatically discharged, i.e. there is no requirement to either take, or admit (rightly or wrongly) to having taken drugs.

If this is correct:

Point 1: You haven't lied.

Point 2: You haven't actually taken drugs

If you tell a prospective employer that this was an action you undertook to leave the services, stated that you have no history of drug taking, stated you were willing to undertake any test you new employer required and even perhaps paid for some civy drug test giving you a clean bill of health, then would it really be a show stopper for a future career?

In a nutshell, my understanding is that you are dismissed for either failing a CDT, i.e. there is no doubt of your guilt, or refusing to take it, in which case there is no proof of your guilt, merely an assumption of it......


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Old 11th May 2012, 08:35
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oaf, I don't think a sex change would get you discharged.

Though as a Rock he/she would have to be remustered.
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