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I love it, the bi monthly mover bashing thread by the same PPRuNe internet warriors with nothing better to do with their own lives but discuss the movements trade. I think some of you secretly hanker after being a mover. Well you could always join the RAUXAF, or you could just continue to sit in front of your screen and keyboard slowly withering away. I'll come back next year and no doubt see the same people discussing the same topics.
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Brilliant AA, your wide assumptions once again prove you're a bad 1980's / (or at best) 1990's caricature and therefore irrelevant to today's operations. The way you throw your opinions about daily on PPRuNe, anyone would be forgiven for thinking you're actually current on either RAF Regiment or RAF Loadmaster SOPs.
But you're not, are you?
But you're not, are you?
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Originally Posted by Laarbruch72
There you go, your profile says it all. I'm not interested in your view of my old trade by the way, it's irrelevant, I'm just questioning the date of these views of movements. Do you have anything to add to the debate based on that factor?
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Well firstly I can't understand how so many movers can have reviewed this book. I have seen it and there are no pictures in it to colour in at all and no stickers to put in the book either.
I had just completed a short det in NI in the early 90's and was going to fly back to Germany via Herc. The Herc duly arrives at Aldergrove and I am in flying kit, carrying a big bergen and have my own personal weapons with me, 9mm and SA80. Stood at security is a mover and a plod, i approach they tell me to put my bergen through the x-ray..sure says I. They then made me take my aircrew knife off and put it through the machine, then as I was going to walk through the plod says 'weapons Sir!'! ....sorry says I...'put your weapons through Sir'.....but they are guns, they are weapons, what are you going to see on the x-ray machine??? You use the machine to see if people are hiding weapons, I am holding mine in front of you. Plod looks at Mover who returns an equally vacant stare and says 'procedures Sir, all carry on items must go through the X-ray machine. It kept me giggling all the way back to Gut and in fact even now.
And another thing, in the late 80's early 90's the movers had a massive scam going on shipping in beer, liqueur and cigs from Germany to Aldergrove. It was huge and obvious., with a minimum of one pallet on every flight!
I had just completed a short det in NI in the early 90's and was going to fly back to Germany via Herc. The Herc duly arrives at Aldergrove and I am in flying kit, carrying a big bergen and have my own personal weapons with me, 9mm and SA80. Stood at security is a mover and a plod, i approach they tell me to put my bergen through the x-ray..sure says I. They then made me take my aircrew knife off and put it through the machine, then as I was going to walk through the plod says 'weapons Sir!'! ....sorry says I...'put your weapons through Sir'.....but they are guns, they are weapons, what are you going to see on the x-ray machine??? You use the machine to see if people are hiding weapons, I am holding mine in front of you. Plod looks at Mover who returns an equally vacant stare and says 'procedures Sir, all carry on items must go through the X-ray machine. It kept me giggling all the way back to Gut and in fact even now.
And another thing, in the late 80's early 90's the movers had a massive scam going on shipping in beer, liqueur and cigs from Germany to Aldergrove. It was huge and obvious., with a minimum of one pallet on every flight!
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Laarbruch72:
Nice way to avoid your lack of any sensible argument...
You injected yourself into a conversation that you weren't a part of and, mysteriously, grabbed the wrong end of a stick and decided to run with it anyway *. Now you trying to cover your irrelevance by questioning my unquestionable lack of currency, as if it's actually relevant. You're a sad person. Accept that, like most of your military career, you are in the wrong place at the wrong time talking to the wrong person about the wrong thing.
To try to get back to the thread, can any mover answer the question I asked before I was rudely interrupted...
* There's a joke there...
Nice way to avoid your lack of any sensible argument...
You injected yourself into a conversation that you weren't a part of and, mysteriously, grabbed the wrong end of a stick and decided to run with it anyway *. Now you trying to cover your irrelevance by questioning my unquestionable lack of currency, as if it's actually relevant. You're a sad person. Accept that, like most of your military career, you are in the wrong place at the wrong time talking to the wrong person about the wrong thing.
To try to get back to the thread, can any mover answer the question I asked before I was rudely interrupted...
* There's a joke there...
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That's a poor go at a comeback AA, it's extremely clumsy and misses the point on about 5 levels. So how current are you again? And yes it is relevant, seeing as the whole point of the OP is a current percieved criticism.
Can you sum up when you left exactly?
Can you sum up when you left exactly?
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Laarbruch72 When AA left is irrelevant. During GW1 the movers were taking swiss army knives that we paid for to be sent out to us, they were going through parcels, with a few exceptions of truly good people they were a bunch of thieving s**ts. Worst of all they broke the number 1 cardinal sin...don't steal from your own! Maybe the lads in the 90's left a legacy that did a disservice for those in the next decade, but you know....I don't think so. Attitudes are contagious is yours worth catching? It was a disease that just kept spreading, thieving from your own, during a war even. S**t sticks.
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ENFP:
You're biting on a self proclaimed copper... Ignore him, they are the white noise of the military and, now they've worked out how to use a keyboard, they are inflicting the same upon the internet...
SFFP:
You used the phrase "I think"... While I'll admit there have been occasions where you have actually done so when we cross swords, those occasions are few and far between and this isn't one of them....
Good luck in your upcoming retirement, I'm so looking forward to it...
You're biting on a self proclaimed copper... Ignore him, they are the white noise of the military and, now they've worked out how to use a keyboard, they are inflicting the same upon the internet...
SFFP:
You used the phrase "I think"... While I'll admit there have been occasions where you have actually done so when we cross swords, those occasions are few and far between and this isn't one of them....
Good luck in your upcoming retirement, I'm so looking forward to it...
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Originally Posted by ENFP
And when do we think Laarbruch "72" was in the mob then?
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Originally Posted by Airborne Aircrew
SFFP:
You used the phrase "I think"... While I'll admit there have been occasions where you have actually done so when we cross swords, those occasions are few and far between and this isn't one of them....
Good luck in your upcoming retirement, I'm so looking forward to it...
Retirement, can't wait and only a few short weeks to go. I can look back on over 38 years of loyal service, new challenges, difficult times, adversity and never once in all that time not facing up to everything thrown at me and meeting it at full speed, head on............................................but you can't say that can you
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ENFP.
Have you ever been in a position when you have had to carry a SA80 with live rounds for a long period of time in the 'made ready state', chances of loosing a live round with continued unloads ?
Have you ever looked properly at a SA80 ?
Well there is a nice green plug on the bottom of the trigger handle that can be removed and 2 live rounds can be hidden in, even more if you are a mover '2 cigerettes' or even worse a bit of 'gear'. It was a common hiding place for people who could loose a round in the line of their duty.
Any ideas what you might see on the X ray machine, now please get back in you box and comment on things you are a SME on.
Have you ever been in a position when you have had to carry a SA80 with live rounds for a long period of time in the 'made ready state', chances of loosing a live round with continued unloads ?
Have you ever looked properly at a SA80 ?
Well there is a nice green plug on the bottom of the trigger handle that can be removed and 2 live rounds can be hidden in, even more if you are a mover '2 cigerettes' or even worse a bit of 'gear'. It was a common hiding place for people who could loose a round in the line of their duty.
Any ideas what you might see on the X ray machine, now please get back in you box and comment on things you are a SME on.
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Well there is a nice green plug on the bottom of the trigger handle that can be removed and 2 live rounds can be hidden in,
