Mouldy Quarters at RAF Brize Norton.
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Mouldy Quarters at RAF Brize Norton.
This is the standard of RAF Brize Norton Quarters that the Serving personnel of this country have to live in. Modern Housing Solutions do nothing about this and quite frankly don't care. Whilst illegal immigrants get to live £2 Mil houses in London families of our Armed Forces personnel have to live in squaller, that I wouldn't put my dog into. Group Captain Stamp needs to get this sorted. It is making the wives and children who live in these conditions ill and is exacerbating existing conditions.
What happened to the nice new modern houses that were going to be built? Oh that's right a whole Stations worth of personnel were moved to Brize Norton without a proper plan in place for where they were going to live.
Group Captain Stamp needs to get the Prime Minister to live up to the pledges he made in regards to the Military Covenant. This is disgusting and needs to be highlighted to the rest of the country.
Sort it out.
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Hi Molie
It can be no consolation to you but when I took over a Quarter at Brize in 1985 we had the pleasure of garden flowers blooming in the lounge after their plants had grown in through the window frames. Regretably, nothing has changed.
It can be no consolation to you but when I took over a Quarter at Brize in 1985 we had the pleasure of garden flowers blooming in the lounge after their plants had grown in through the window frames. Regretably, nothing has changed.
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Cannot agree; this is quite wrong and our people should be looked after better than this (seems).
Wives don't want the stress and husbands don't want the worry of the wives' stress.
Not R science, is it?
Wives don't want the stress and husbands don't want the worry of the wives' stress.
Not R science, is it?
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With Fantom on this, that is disgusting and should not be even offered in this day and age..
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plenty of houses on the patch at Leuchars. Allegedly only 18 of 84 are lived in 
Problem is that the Stn Cdr has almost no influence over SFA - he now has no budget, no staff etc. He an make representations to DIO - and that's about it. Its the samne in most other support areas - personnel case work is centralised, pay enquiries centralised, works services regionalised...I could go one!
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No longer a Station Commander, more a Station Manager.
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Sorry, dont mean to be brash but the comment one above is correct. There is no point in ranting at Brize Staish as I really doubt he has any control over this.
One would hope the savings identified in the last budget which ring-fenced spending for housing improvements will be targeted at MOBs and not at places with empty patches for conversion into social housing.
It is another nail in the coffin for many, alas, many of these issues were identified by a few juniors at Brize, standard response was "it will be sorted in time".
One would hope the savings identified in the last budget which ring-fenced spending for housing improvements will be targeted at MOBs and not at places with empty patches for conversion into social housing.
It is another nail in the coffin for many, alas, many of these issues were identified by a few juniors at Brize, standard response was "it will be sorted in time".
Ever heard of a sponge and bleach? No different to the MQ I had at LYE.
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That is totally unacceptable and should be addressed asap. It makes me so frustrated that even when houses are in this sort of state, which I might add is well beyond totally unaccepatble, that the discussion of charging
Market rate still goes on. Write to your local MP, oh hang on............
Market rate still goes on. Write to your local MP, oh hang on............
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The quarters are shagged. They were never meant to last this long and I bet the use of any cavity insulation isnt helping either.
The only real solution if that is the ground floor is pretty much demolition. Repairing the course would be pricy. Injected damp proof courses always seem to fail after a while.
I know its not perfect, but we minimized mildew growth by wiping down the walls and thin coating them in pure bleach, it did the job for the next few months.
The only real solution if that is the ground floor is pretty much demolition. Repairing the course would be pricy. Injected damp proof courses always seem to fail after a while.
I know its not perfect, but we minimized mildew growth by wiping down the walls and thin coating them in pure bleach, it did the job for the next few months.
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Have to agree with Tom,
Its about time we looked after our own, if the huggy fluffies want to give illegals, ect, good housing, benefits, ect. Let them pay for it.
This is the standard of RAF Brize Norton Quarters that the Serving personnel of this country have to live in. Modern Housing Solutions do nothing about this and quite frankly don't care. Whilst illegal immigrants get to live £2 Mil houses in London families of our Armed Forces personnel have to live in squaller
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31 Years ago on the 25 April 1981 I married a dental nurse from Brize Norton. It just so happened that I was also being posted to the newly formed Tornado world (much to my disgust). The only offer of a married quarter at BZN, after we got married, was a flat in Abingdon Road, until we got a MQ at Cottesmore. Normally this would not have happened as you needed to be at a Unit for at least 6 months to qualify for a quarter.
We very were pleased that we started off a married life under the same roof. Unfortunately the flat we took over was absolutely minging and i mean rancid. There was mold muck and dirt and even cats flees. We were told take it or leave it and if you take it you will need to bring it up to march out standard or be charged. We took it (so at least we could live together at weekends) and I went to Cottesmore while my new wife spent the first 3 months on her hand and knees scrubbing. We got £30 quid to clean it.
In those days a collocation posting was difficult to achieve and certainly not a right so my wife also had to leave the RAF if we were to start married life together.
I am not saying this is right and it was our choice, but **** happens and that is the way it was.
But the way I look at it is that it made us stronger and happier. Give me a shout if you can look back on 31 years of very happy marriage and a 30 year career in the RAF making do with what ever comes. Not that many here could boast the same I feel.
We very were pleased that we started off a married life under the same roof. Unfortunately the flat we took over was absolutely minging and i mean rancid. There was mold muck and dirt and even cats flees. We were told take it or leave it and if you take it you will need to bring it up to march out standard or be charged. We took it (so at least we could live together at weekends) and I went to Cottesmore while my new wife spent the first 3 months on her hand and knees scrubbing. We got £30 quid to clean it.
In those days a collocation posting was difficult to achieve and certainly not a right so my wife also had to leave the RAF if we were to start married life together.
I am not saying this is right and it was our choice, but **** happens and that is the way it was.
But the way I look at it is that it made us stronger and happier. Give me a shout if you can look back on 31 years of very happy marriage and a 30 year career in the RAF making do with what ever comes. Not that many here could boast the same I feel.
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It's a good job those houses are rent free, there would be a national scandal if you had to pay rent, and as with the above post's there is nothing the Stn Cdr can do about it, apart from raise concern, as it's not part of his budget's, we all know it's about budget's and nothing else.
I am so sorry you support you country and it does not support you........ Please sort this out, our people deserve better
I am so sorry you support you country and it does not support you........ Please sort this out, our people deserve better
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Sad to say but that actually looks like an improvement on the MQ's at Brize. Certainly better than the one we moved into when I was there.
Mould, asbestos, wall panels not fixed to the frames (didn’t know about that one? One reason for the upgrades they did in 2001/2 was to fix the exterior panels to the steel frame so they couldn’t be removed by just lifting them) and the list could go on.
The only practical upgrade to the main housing stock in Cartoon town involves a D6 and lots of skips. Mind you, that could be said of the whole town but that's a whole different issue.
From a personal point of view, now they have knocked down a load of them the resultant open space is an improvement on the place and IMHO should remain as is with a bit of tidying up and landscaping, it would make a nice park that is located fairly central to the town.
New housing stock for the base should be included in the build plan currently running on the town’s outskirts.
Mould, asbestos, wall panels not fixed to the frames (didn’t know about that one? One reason for the upgrades they did in 2001/2 was to fix the exterior panels to the steel frame so they couldn’t be removed by just lifting them) and the list could go on.
The only practical upgrade to the main housing stock in Cartoon town involves a D6 and lots of skips. Mind you, that could be said of the whole town but that's a whole different issue.
From a personal point of view, now they have knocked down a load of them the resultant open space is an improvement on the place and IMHO should remain as is with a bit of tidying up and landscaping, it would make a nice park that is located fairly central to the town.
New housing stock for the base should be included in the build plan currently running on the town’s outskirts.
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Not good, and regardless of what others may have accepted in the past it is not acceptable anymore!
The days of putting up and shutting up are over, as has been pointed out the RAF is not the landlord anymore and has little if anything to do with the process. Your landlord has a duty to provide a certain standard of accommodation, that looks substandard and I would expect alternative accommodation until the problem is rectified, not wiped away. There is a damp problem with potential health problems that needs rectifying,
http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/pdf/Mould.pdf
First of all you must try and let the landlord fix the problem, see the complaints link
RAF Community - Guide to living in SFA
If the landlord doesn't take rapid action I would try the Station Welfare WO if you have one (they are excellent and worth their weight in gold
), Citizens Advice, MP, local press, National Press, TV consumer rights programs, etc. You are not embarrassing the RAF or Forces, this situation was forced on them years ago.
Once the landlord has had a fair chance to fix the problem then you are quite right to highlight poor standards which should not be accepted anywhere in the UK, especially where your family are concerned! This isn't an issue covered by the OSA and you should not suffer any consequences for speaking up, quite the opposite as a member of the Forces you should feel an obligation to speak out in an attempt to improve the situation for others.
The days of putting up and shutting up are over, as has been pointed out the RAF is not the landlord anymore and has little if anything to do with the process. Your landlord has a duty to provide a certain standard of accommodation, that looks substandard and I would expect alternative accommodation until the problem is rectified, not wiped away. There is a damp problem with potential health problems that needs rectifying,
http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/pdf/Mould.pdf
First of all you must try and let the landlord fix the problem, see the complaints link
RAF Community - Guide to living in SFA
If the landlord doesn't take rapid action I would try the Station Welfare WO if you have one (they are excellent and worth their weight in gold
), Citizens Advice, MP, local press, National Press, TV consumer rights programs, etc. You are not embarrassing the RAF or Forces, this situation was forced on them years ago. Once the landlord has had a fair chance to fix the problem then you are quite right to highlight poor standards which should not be accepted anywhere in the UK, especially where your family are concerned! This isn't an issue covered by the OSA and you should not suffer any consequences for speaking up, quite the opposite as a member of the Forces you should feel an obligation to speak out in an attempt to improve the situation for others.
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Concur with Ivan. Take "them" to task. Do not tolerate this. It is not good enough.
I'm getting so tired of this unrelenting drop in standards. If they are trying to drive us out, for this call sign it is working. I will not tolerate this if I am allocated this standard of housing on my next station of none choice.
I'll be off too. This is not the 1920s/1970s. So depressing.
I'm getting so tired of this unrelenting drop in standards. If they are trying to drive us out, for this call sign it is working. I will not tolerate this if I am allocated this standard of housing on my next station of none choice.
I'll be off too. This is not the 1920s/1970s. So depressing.