USN calls for new fighter - they never learn
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USN calls for new fighter - they never learn
According to Flight this week the USN are looking for a new fighter for post 2030
They want persistent air defence capability, air to air refueling, tactical recce, surveillance, target acquisition, airborne electronic attack - can be manned, optionally manned, unmanned
has to fly faster, fly further and linger longer than current designs with a greater payload
Once again reaching for the moon looking to spend zillions before it's cancelled
They want persistent air defence capability, air to air refueling, tactical recce, surveillance, target acquisition, airborne electronic attack - can be manned, optionally manned, unmanned
has to fly faster, fly further and linger longer than current designs with a greater payload
Once again reaching for the moon looking to spend zillions before it's cancelled
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Ah!
The USN is in luck, I am in the position to offer the Navy a modernised, network focused, force multiplying, negative war-fighter deficit, pro US job creating, fixed price do-able system of systems!
I call it the UAS-A12 the III, or if our clients prefer, the USA-12 Revenger III.
The USN is in luck, I am in the position to offer the Navy a modernised, network focused, force multiplying, negative war-fighter deficit, pro US job creating, fixed price do-able system of systems!
I call it the UAS-A12 the III, or if our clients prefer, the USA-12 Revenger III.
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According to Flight this week the USN are looking for a new fighter for post 2030
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Dead in the water (no pun intended) obviously.
As you have shown your hand in a demo without "US Navy" painted on thee aircraft they will dismiss your submission and buy something more expensive.
As you have shown your hand in a demo without "US Navy" painted on thee aircraft they will dismiss your submission and buy something more expensive.
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As an aside isn't the A-12 a very 2nd generation 'stealth' LO. I'm guessing F-22, F-35 PAK-FA and J-20 would be grouped as 3rd generation.
Therefore what ever it is they want in 2030 probably won't use current LO solutions, maybe multi-spectral 'cloaking' devices will be available by then that allow more freedom for aerodynamic flair?
Therefore what ever it is they want in 2030 probably won't use current LO solutions, maybe multi-spectral 'cloaking' devices will be available by then that allow more freedom for aerodynamic flair?
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Originally Posted by Willard Whyte
What are they going to do with all the (virtually) factory fresh '35s, I wonder.
The USN has made it very clear that this is to partner with the UCAV program as the replacement for F/A-18E/F... NOT F-35C!
F-35C has, for the last 5 years or so, been scheduled to only replace F/A-18A/B/C/D Hornets, not Super Hornets.
The USN staked its bet on a UCAV only" SH replacement some 5 years ago, and there was not supposed to be another manned carrier-fighter bought, but the USN has backed off this.
Of course, journos with: an axe to grind/desire to "sex the story up" to boost sales/complete ignorance/refusal to believe they are being told the truth, and random internet posters with the same issues, are blathering on about how this is actually a substitute for F-35C... but they are very wrong.
According to Flight this week the USN are looking for a new fighter for post 2030....
I gather that the USN have also now realised that drones (of whichever 3-or 4-letter abbreviation/acronym/initialism is currently in vogue) aren't exactly living up to their protagonists' boasts.....
"F-35C has, for the last 5 years or so, been scheduled to only replace F/A-18A/B/C/D Hornets, not Super Hornets.
"The USN staked its bet on a UCAV only SH replacement some 5 years ago, and there was not supposed to be another manned carrier-fighter bought, but the USN has backed off this."
Not entirely correct.
The JSF has never been intended as the SH replacement, in part because IOC was originally planned to be only 11 years after the SH with deliveries completed in the early 2020s. On the other hand, the SH was never intended to be the C/D replacement, but this will begin to happen willy-nilly if production is continued.
I don't think that there is. or has ever been, a USN commitment to UCAV. Rather, when the J-UCAS program came apart in 2005-06, the Navy recognized that it could be used to demonstrate the principle of a CV-based unmanned stealth platform and persisted with X-47B.
"The USN staked its bet on a UCAV only SH replacement some 5 years ago, and there was not supposed to be another manned carrier-fighter bought, but the USN has backed off this."
Not entirely correct.
The JSF has never been intended as the SH replacement, in part because IOC was originally planned to be only 11 years after the SH with deliveries completed in the early 2020s. On the other hand, the SH was never intended to be the C/D replacement, but this will begin to happen willy-nilly if production is continued.
I don't think that there is. or has ever been, a USN commitment to UCAV. Rather, when the J-UCAS program came apart in 2005-06, the Navy recognized that it could be used to demonstrate the principle of a CV-based unmanned stealth platform and persisted with X-47B.
