Voyager: AT Aircraft Only??
2. DAS not fitted = no use in theatre AT role-
if you look closely below the cockpit window and behind near the tail there are antenna fit which are part of a DAS system.
p.s the contact is /was not to make money to payback, but to hide the fact the Government(Brown/Blair} of the day ,did not want to spend any money up front
if you look closely below the cockpit window and behind near the tail there are antenna fit which are part of a DAS system.
p.s the contact is /was not to make money to payback, but to hide the fact the Government(Brown/Blair} of the day ,did not want to spend any money up front
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Not sure where you are going to put freight downstairs on the Tristar K 1 or KC 1 as the lower holds have additional fuel tanks in them.
Nor do I understand why you think outsize freight can go through the main floor cargo door on the KC 1. All fright has to travel on standard size 108 x 88 inch pallets. There is the capability to link 2 pallets accross the width of the a/c though and thats how the majority of JP233's were moved to theatre during GRANBY - oh that seems a long time ago!
Not sure where you are going to put freight downstairs on the Tristar K 1 or KC 1 as the lower holds have additional fuel tanks in them.
Nor do I understand why you think outsize freight can go through the main floor cargo door on the KC 1. All fright has to travel on standard size 108 x 88 inch pallets. There is the capability to link 2 pallets accross the width of the a/c though and thats how the majority of JP233's were moved to theatre during GRANBY - oh that seems a long time ago!
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The reason I asked about freight doors (for passenger deck) was due to the statement in the Airbus quote re: passengers/freight/stretchers, all of which suggests that the seats can be removed for freight/stretchers as per the VC10 and Tristar. The freight door of the VC10 enable pallettes etc to be loaded (in the passenger compartment), as with Tristar, and for other bulky objects such as specialist stretchers (Iron Lung or equivilent )to be emplaned/deplaned. Whilst we now have the C17 there will only be 8 of them so the additional cargo capacity of the Voyager would have been useful. One other question is: do the seats face to the rear as in other RAF a/c?
The reason I asked about freight doors (for passenger deck) was due to the statement in the Airbus quote re: passengers/freight/stretchers, all of which suggests that the seats can be removed for freight/stretchers as per the VC10 and Tristar. The freight door of the VC10 enable pallettes etc to be loaded (in the passenger compartment), as with Tristar, and for other bulky objects such as specialist stretchers (Iron Lung or equivilent )to be emplaned/deplaned. Whilst we now have the C17 there will only be 8 of them so the additional cargo capacity of the Voyager would have been useful. One other question is: do the seats face to the rear as in other RAF a/c?
agreed Wheezykid
what I would like to know is what happen to the new DAS kit the MRA4 was fitted with.
Did it go back to the OEM? there was at least 9 systems worth aquired.
what I would like to know is what happen to the new DAS kit the MRA4 was fitted with.
Did it go back to the OEM? there was at least 9 systems worth aquired.
what happen to the new DAS kit the MRA4 was fitted with.
Did it go back to the OEM? there was at least 9 systems worth aquired
Did it go back to the OEM? there was at least 9 systems worth aquired
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Early freight on the Tristar used to go in the cabin in specially made freight containers that were full width but were the depth of the pax door, they looked like someone had taken a salami slicer to a standard freight container...
One of the Voyagers visited us today at EGNX, nice to see.
One of the Voyagers visited us today at EGNX, nice to see.
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Nut Loose - Correct, but only on the K1 of which there is still one flying in that role.
Voyager 330 actualy flew at Brize today! Perrhaps all the bad PR in the press is finaly making things happen!
Voyager 330 actualy flew at Brize today! Perrhaps all the bad PR in the press is finaly making things happen!
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One of the Voyagers visited us today at EGNX, nice to see.
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Not sure where you are going to put freight downstairs on the Tristar K 1 or KC 1 as the lower holds have additional fuel tanks in them.
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Having flown a number of 'Medevac' cases on RPT A330 flights, I can say that there is no problem. IIRC, three x two seats were folded down (rather than removed) and the medical stretcher, which was quite a sturdy piece of kit, was secured, very strongly, in place.
The attending Doctor and Nurse(s) were seated across the aisle in two or three adjacent aisle seats, with additional oxygen bottles and requisite medical supplies secured close by. The medical staff and the cabin crew were briefed to call me in the event of any problems. It never happened; all went very smoothly and the patient was tenderly wheeled to an ambulance, by way of an hydraulic lift, after the other passengers had disembarked.
The attending Doctor and Nurse(s) were seated across the aisle in two or three adjacent aisle seats, with additional oxygen bottles and requisite medical supplies secured close by. The medical staff and the cabin crew were briefed to call me in the event of any problems. It never happened; all went very smoothly and the patient was tenderly wheeled to an ambulance, by way of an hydraulic lift, after the other passengers had disembarked.
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Maybe the defence system is not required untill a later point in the contract. If the wiring is in place its only a few hours to fit the external bits surely!!
I notice that the full air to air in service capability isnt due untill late 2014 would be interesting to know what the contact actually says about the introducion phase.
I notice that the full air to air in service capability isnt due untill late 2014 would be interesting to know what the contact actually says about the introducion phase.
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would be interesting to know what the contact actually says about the introducion phase
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BMI BA news
"A330s cease flying end of summer season"
Now there would possibly be a cheap short term stop gap for the pax capability shortages if they were available..
"A330s cease flying end of summer season"
Now there would possibly be a cheap short term stop gap for the pax capability shortages if they were available..
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E-mail from a friend also saying Emirates are replacing their A330s with B777s in the very near future. Perhaps the possibility of KC-30B ....