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Old 9th Jan 2012, 20:29
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All the former Offutt AFB museum exhibits have now been relocated to the purpose-built Strategic Air and Space Museum at Ashkand, NE some 30 miles from Offutt. All the old relics are now safely indoors.

One wonders whether some of the old Bellevue Ramada relics have been treated quite so well....
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Old 9th Jan 2012, 20:37
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Further to correct my last, I now believe it might have been a staged illusional image - sorry; Stemmed from the US Giant Voice crews perception of the Vulcan as a fighter. Nevertheless, I'll see if I can chase down bro's phot.
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Old 9th Jan 2012, 21:04
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Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav
Actually there was still one at Offutt in 1976 IIRC, P-N. Hope they've got it under cover somewhere now. Parked our Victor 1 near it on a families open day static display - Beauty and the Beast!
Ah yes, Sir Fred's beast with Consolidated finest

I remember one film of the B36. Also how one had flown from USA to Libya to bomb at Tarhuna range and then do on to Germany. Europe was out so he went home again. Yes, a true intercontinental bomber. Imagine if they had actually completed it during WW2.
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Should be at Newark, possible clash of dates, present a/c is Evector Eurostar, co-built with Andy Godber, sold the Europa after 5 years of flying fun, preceeded by 3 yrs of hard labour! Promised photo should be up tomorrow, I still need a clever nav or AEO,and there were plenty of those. I was and still am a purely pull back go up cor blimey bloke! Jon Tye
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Old 10th Jan 2012, 09:12
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Ah yes, Sir Fred's beast with Consolidated finest
Tut tut P-N

I may have to challenge you to a duel at Newark on 28 April for that insult to an elegant lady. Suitable weapons would be nav rulers!

One wonders whether some of the old Bellevue Ramada relics have been treated quite so well....
Remember observing one tanker crew dragging itself into the Ramada after a nine hour transit from Marham and remarking that now I understood what jet lags looked like!
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Old 10th Jan 2012, 09:33
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Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav
Tut tut P-N

I may have to challenge you to a duel at Newark on 28 April for that insult to an elegant lady. Suitable weapons would be nav rulers!
Tut tut indeed. Fencing with nav rulers, who ever heard of such a thing.

I still remember with annoyance when I went to stores at Hullavington as my nav rule had a chip in it. I was falsely accused by the WO, who ran the stores, of fencing and I had done no such thing.
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Old 10th Jan 2012, 09:38
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On my first visit to Offut, in 1962, I was assured that the B36, though not flown, was fully servicable and had a war target. It was one of the conditions laid by General Le May when approved of the preservation of the aircraft.

"There are no free lunches in SAC."

Presumably if WW III broke out it would be fully fuelled and armed, a collection of generals and colonels would climb in and blunder off across the Pacific. By the time they reached anywhere all the flashes and bangs would have finished so they would have ended up in Outer Mongolia with a load of Vulcan aircrew.

Looking back I think it was a pack of lies.
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Old 10th Jan 2012, 16:50
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FED, I would nt put it past them. When I went into the command post in '65 everyone in their was armed with a pistol except the two guys with the launch codes. If they had tried an illegal launch . . .
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What about "Never bring a pistol to a W53 fight"?
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I am advised that Tony Semark 230 Course South Cerney has died so no more Vulcan reunions for him which is rather sad.
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230 Course Blue Sqn South Cerney 1967
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Old 12th Jan 2012, 15:21
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I remember Tony well, flying with a hand and wrist in a plaster. Another time (could be same time) he asked the flt cdr for a flt as he needed it for currency. For some reason it was refused and when he appealed he was rebuffed even more.

He went to the bar for a pint.

Flt Cdr dug him out and told him he was on the flypro. He refused to fly as he had been drinking.

Flt Cdr threatened to have him courts martialled. Don't know the final outcome.

Good bloke, well missed.
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purpose-built Strategic Air and Space Museum at Ashkand, NE
Visited in 2004. Well worth a visit if you are out that way. That B36 is HUGE.
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Old 13th Jan 2012, 12:09
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Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav

Suitable weapons would be nav rulers!
Nav rulers? Didn't they used to be known as pilots?
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Old 13th Jan 2012, 13:01
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Hi Jon,
Talking about photographs...... do you have any of the Queen's Birthday Flypast with the 4 Vulcans as the backbone? Despite all the flights I did ( rehearsals and "on the day") I never had a photo as a memento! (Maybe I was never lined up!)
You must remember when we almost collided thanks to the twerp from 230 OCU!!!!!!!!!!! I can recall your phone call as if it were yesterday - but I cannot remember what you said exactly.
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Hi Simmy, How well I recall that day. I've never seen a vulcan so close even when standing underneath one. I don't recall the phone conversation but I doubt it's repeatable. If you're still QFI'ing keep safe. Jon
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Old 17th Jan 2012, 08:05
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Hi Jon

Did you get my Private Mesage?
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Old 17th Jan 2012, 15:22
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present a/c is Evector Eurostar
Jon - you'd be very welcome to fly in to Wellesbourne Mountford on June 17 and park your Eurostar next to a real Vulcan (XM655) during our annual fast taxy event should you wish....

PM me for details....
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G-OTYE with XM655 at Wellesbourne Mountford

I'm glad to report that Jon took me up on my offer to fly in to Wings & Wheels at Wellesbourne on 17 June and park his aircraft next to XM655, a Vulcan that he flew on several occasions back in the day.



Later on, Jon and a record breaking number of spectators watched as '655, crewed by David Thomas, Mike Pollitt, John Laycock and Barry Masefield did this:



Six wheels in the air (just briefly)!

Lots of other former Vulcan aircrew around that day, including BEagle!

Thanks to everyone coming along and making Wings & Wheels a great day - the money raised means that we can carry on keeping '655 alive.....
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B-36

If you are a fan of the "Aloominum Overcast", make a pilgrimage to the Wright-Patterson Air Force Museum in Dayton, beautiful example there along with the largest collection of aircraft you will ever see in one place. A place you must visit, and give it two days to come close to seeing everything.
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