Tornado GR1 question?
Thankfully you did.
I recall the efforts to get you both back to Blighty, with the catering truck lifting Ivor's.....I'm not sure what it was called, but he was clamped into it well.....into the Tristar.
I recall the efforts to get you both back to Blighty, with the catering truck lifting Ivor's.....I'm not sure what it was called, but he was clamped into it well.....into the Tristar.
Yes it was but the resulting aircraft was a little weird. Even with just outboard stores it was a little reluctant to go supersonic and when it did there was an unusual (but brief) yaw accompanied by a worrying howl from the canopy which vibrated to the touch.
Never liked that aircraft and the display crew would not touch it.
Never liked that aircraft and the display crew would not touch it.
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Glad to hear you're alive and kicking. I was back seat in the replacement aircraft that we ferried out from LBH (and forever grateful that I did not have to operate from those sh*tty conditions).
Mind you, Dharhan wasn't much better - but we only had to endure that from about day -2 until endex.
All the best
Harry (Mister B to you!)
Glad to hear you're alive and kicking. I was back seat in the replacement aircraft that we ferried out from LBH (and forever grateful that I did not have to operate from those sh*tty conditions).
Mind you, Dharhan wasn't much better - but we only had to endure that from about day -2 until endex.
All the best
Harry (Mister B to you!)
SAMXXV
I think you are muddling up your war stories ..... again. The incident being discussed (ZA466 Oct 90) is this one (or click here for the MOD summary) .... the one your 'story' relates to is, I believe, this one (ZD893 Jan 91 - and IIRC neither crew member was called Robert in this accident either .....)
How did it feel to fly a constant one way circuit knowing that you were both going to have to eject when fuel ran out
SAMXXV
Wrong ..... again - on both counts.
The names of the crew of ZD893 are open source and can be found here.
Strangely the ZA466 accident is not on that site.
I would give up on the 'war stories' until you can get your facts right.
PS - Bob The Builder went on to get a DFC for GW1 - if he had jumped out of the jet in either Oct 90 or Jan 91 how exactly would this have been possible ....?
Probably, but I think RobbyA was/is Sqn Ldr Bob (Robert) McAlpine - with the very new OC XV Sqn (JB) in the back seat of ZD893. I rest my case.
The names of the crew of ZD893 are open source and can be found here.
Strangely the ZA466 accident is not on that site.
I would give up on the 'war stories' until you can get your facts right.
PS - Bob The Builder went on to get a DFC for GW1 - if he had jumped out of the jet in either Oct 90 or Jan 91 how exactly would this have been possible ....?
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SAM is completely and utterly wrong on all counts with this bolleuax speculation. I was at home base (II(AC)), waiting devlopments and taking a close interest as we had not yet firmed up the potential role/tasking - not to mention getting the IR recce kit fully up to speed.
As I said earlier, I was a crew member delivering a replacement, and taking home a jet needing in-depth servicing (maybe it isn't listed as they allegedly didn't pull the handle, enjoying instead a spontaneous ejaculation - remember this is a rumour site, and that was the rumour at the time. Bobby may be able to expand on this).
The man is trying my patience and normal easy going demeanour with his ill-informed proclamations.
Mister B
As I said earlier, I was a crew member delivering a replacement, and taking home a jet needing in-depth servicing (maybe it isn't listed as they allegedly didn't pull the handle, enjoying instead a spontaneous ejaculation - remember this is a rumour site, and that was the rumour at the time. Bobby may be able to expand on this).
The man is trying my patience and normal easy going demeanour with his ill-informed proclamations.
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Definitely not a spontaneous ejection, Ivor pulled the handle. My normal last checks before landing were to check the slats were deployed and then check we had 3 greens. As I turned my head forward to check for 3 greens I saw the top 2 feet of the barrier illuminated by the landing lights and braced myself on the top of the TV tabs. The impact set off the MDC which shredded my hands with lead and Perspex. All Ivor heard was the syllable “F” before all h*ll broke loose.
Definitely not a spontaneous ejection, Ivor pulled the handle. My normal last checks before landing were to check the slats were deployed and then check we had 3 greens. As I turned my head forward to check for 3 greens I saw the top 2 feet of the barrier illuminated by the landing lights and braced myself on the top of the TV tabs. The impact set off the MDC which shredded my hands with lead and Perspex. All Ivor heard was the syllable “F” before all h*ll broke loose.
Bobby, what number in the formation were you? IIRC, we were to be in front of you but our jet went u/s on the ground and I heard about it all when someone ran into the MQ whilst I was reading a book.
There was another jet landed ahead of you with another ppruner in the back. They were lucky...you weren't.
I was in the control tower next day and the Saudis claimed the barrier came up of its own accord.
There was another jet landed ahead of you with another ppruner in the back. They were lucky...you weren't.
I was in the control tower next day and the Saudis claimed the barrier came up of its own accord.
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just another jocky,
I think we were number 3 of the front 4 of an 8 ship. After tanking we descended to low level but couldn't get the TFR to engage so we returned to Tabuk. The BoE interviewed the F15 engineers who were looking after the QRA jets at that end of the runway and they said it had been raised for hours.
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I think we were number 3 of the front 4 of an 8 ship. After tanking we descended to low level but couldn't get the TFR to engage so we returned to Tabuk. The BoE interviewed the F15 engineers who were looking after the QRA jets at that end of the runway and they said it had been raised for hours.
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Thanks for the clarification Bobby - as I said, this is a rumour site (and as you might guess, information caming back to LBH could easily get the "send three and fourpence" treatment), and the rumour was based on images of the break of the cockpit section from the noisy end of the jet (causing wires to tension and ping and fire pyros, etc).
Fading memories, was your MQ in Cochrane Drive? The one that joined the great semi-circle of Trenchard Drive (No 53 for me); and my children often getting grubby along with yours.
Mister B
Fading memories, was your MQ in Cochrane Drive? The one that joined the great semi-circle of Trenchard Drive (No 53 for me); and my children often getting grubby along with yours.
Mister B