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Blue Angels
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Blue Angels 1973
Now the Blue Angels in F4s..........
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As Technophobe said, why wasn't T2 mentioned as the replacement for T1.......Anybody??
Hawk T2 procurement: 28 ordered.
So the answer is, as always these days, "money".
USAF Skyblazers
Slight thread drift,
Talking of past display teams,I vote for the USAF Europe team in the 50s/60s
the "Skyblazers" with five F100 Super Sabres tearing the place up.
Lots of low level high speed passes/manouvers with full afterburners.
The speciallity being the Diamond four pass with wheels down, then with an exagerated very long afterburner flame as they pulled up.The single aircraft would then do a high speed low pass under the diamond four with same long flame afterburner.
This was achieved by injecting neat fuel into the full afterburner exhaust, the flame was about 8-10 meters long.
You had to be there, those were the days.
OPF
Talking of past display teams,I vote for the USAF Europe team in the 50s/60s
the "Skyblazers" with five F100 Super Sabres tearing the place up.
Lots of low level high speed passes/manouvers with full afterburners.
The speciallity being the Diamond four pass with wheels down, then with an exagerated very long afterburner flame as they pulled up.The single aircraft would then do a high speed low pass under the diamond four with same long flame afterburner.
This was achieved by injecting neat fuel into the full afterburner exhaust, the flame was about 8-10 meters long.
You had to be there, those were the days.
OPF
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At the Waddo airshow one year there was a number of visiting units including some FAF Mirage. They were asked if they could display and they agreed.
Now I have no idea if they were an authorised and practiced display but they did a very tight display as a pair.
A pair of heavies made the singleton Tornadoes etc look distinctly tame.
Very true, a front line aircraft beats a trainer any day no matter how 'pretty' the latter is. Of course Simon's circus beat the lot, even 16 Hunters.
Now I have no idea if they were an authorised and practiced display but they did a very tight display as a pair.
A pair of heavies made the singleton Tornadoes etc look distinctly tame.
Very true, a front line aircraft beats a trainer any day no matter how 'pretty' the latter is. Of course Simon's circus beat the lot, even 16 Hunters.
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Well, well. Absolutely right, PN. Look what I found here. Click on the little movie icon to see video of them at Farnboro' in '68.
Sea Vixen. Royal Navy. Carrier Jet. - Sea Vixen Display Teams > "Simons Sircus"
Sea Vixen. Royal Navy. Carrier Jet. - Sea Vixen Display Teams > "Simons Sircus"
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101 Sqn used to do a superb vc10 display with I think 4, paint them red 
the noise alone would make you go weak at the knees.... Though the sim didn't like it if you tried to loop it, so I doubt the ten would either...
the noise alone would make you go weak at the knees.... Though the sim didn't like it if you tried to loop it, so I doubt the ten would either...
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It won't be a Tornado Display Team, they'll need a fleet of 90 to get 9 serviceable
Nothing much has changed then. In the mid 60s we sometimes struggled to get two or three Hunter FGA9s ready for flight first thing in the morning. That was out of a squadron of 19 aircraft.
There were only two occasions that I recall when we got all 19 aircraft out of the hangar at the same time.
One was when we stopped all flying for a number of days so that we could get 18 airborne for a flypast to celebrate our 50th anniversary. The 19th aircraft, Delta, was in the line up for the photos, but had to have its rudder tied on with string. Some would say that Delta still flew in the flypast as there was some part of it flying in all the other 18.
The other time when there was some threat during Indonesian Confrontation, when all the aircraft were grounded so as they would not go US. But at that time they were not on the line, they were dispersed all over Tengah.
There were only two occasions that I recall when we got all 19 aircraft out of the hangar at the same time.
One was when we stopped all flying for a number of days so that we could get 18 airborne for a flypast to celebrate our 50th anniversary. The 19th aircraft, Delta, was in the line up for the photos, but had to have its rudder tied on with string. Some would say that Delta still flew in the flypast as there was some part of it flying in all the other 18.
The other time when there was some threat during Indonesian Confrontation, when all the aircraft were grounded so as they would not go US. But at that time they were not on the line, they were dispersed all over Tengah.
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And the Hunters didn't get any more serviceable as they got older! But, wasn't that a great ac to fly, Harrier? I only flew it when holding after Brawdy, but it's a real thoroughbred. Solution, just buy more airframes or do aircrew turnrounds.
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TEEJ< thank you. I didn't want to guess the type. << on second thoughts it was likely '95 as I had left Waddo in '96.
Mach Two, thank you for that. I missed it myself as I was also at Farnborough in '68 the year an Atlantic went into the sheds on the north side. We almost parked a Hurri in the shed as well.
Cazou, I will grant you 22 Avons and see you 12 Avons and 10 Gyrons but for heavy metal the RN takes it.
Mach Two, thank you for that. I missed it myself as I was also at Farnborough in '68 the year an Atlantic went into the sheds on the north side. We almost parked a Hurri in the shed as well.
Cazou, I will grant you 22 Avons and see you 12 Avons and 10 Gyrons but for heavy metal the RN takes it.
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809 re-formed in 1966 under the command of Lt Cdr Lyn Middleton and was now equipped with the Rolls-Royce Spey-powered Buccaneer S Mk2