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Another Red Arrows mishap? (merged)

Old 8th Nov 2011, 22:16
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From the DM
'The pilot's next of kin have been informed. Our thoughts and prayers are with the pilot's family and friends at this difficult time.' The pilot will be named tomorrow.
Bit late as they already published the pilots name earlier.....muppets
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Have you seen the cr@p he has written on that website, "it looks like pilot error" alright d******d how about you show him and his family some respect and not post stuff based on rumours and your supposed 'knowledge'
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 22:22
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500N. You are not wrong. Maybe a DM editor is getting his/her wrist slapped as we write.
I suspect, and hope, that it will be much more than a wrist slapping!

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Such a terrible, tragic loss - my heart goes out to family and friends.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 22:30
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Very sad, RIP.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 22:35
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Daily Mail

The "offending" Daily Mail webpage from 22:30 lists the story as being by Ian Drury & Andy Dolan, but the revised page from 22:53 is by a Mail Reporter.

Suddenly the Daily Mail are shy about everyone's name.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 22:50
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Daily Mail

if you want to make your feelings known:

Press Complaints Commission >> Making a Complaint >> How to make a complaint

i know what im off to do now....

RIP.
Complaint made.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 22:55
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 22:56
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A lot of press will be reading up on Pprune, E-Goat and other RAF military forums.

You don't want to be the person that breaks the seal, and ends up at the end of a unpleasant one-way chat.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 23:09
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The Daily Mail are still showing the name of the Pilot in the comments section of the page.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 23:28
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Yes, but the Daily Mail aren't exactly known for technical accuracy...
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 23:44
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I can't believe half the drivel on the Daily Mail comments page. RIP, a sad day!
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 23:56
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Complaint made. Utter t@ssers.

RIP sir, my thoughts are with your family, friends and RAFAT.
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 00:00
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Just terribly sad news and another dreadful loss to the RAF and the aviation world - RIP Sir.
Jane and I send our love and prayers to everyone involved and associated with RAFAT. You are all very much in our thoughts and prayers at this, the saddest of times.

TKR
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 01:22
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They're now naming him and showing his picture


RIP Sir.
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 01:30
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Yes, just noticed that.

The DM really are muppets. Look what is in the first sentence ...... "at the stunt team’s base".



Maybe it's time the MOD enforce embargo's on the details.
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 01:46
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Another magnificent man and his red flying machine..... My thoughts remain with the family, friends and the Reds. A damn shame.
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 01:57
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Extract from the "Editors Code of Practice" as published by the PCC:

*Privacy

i) Everyone is entitled to respect for his or her private and family life, home, health and correspondence, including digital communications.

ii) Editors will be expected to justify intrusions into any individual's private life without consent......
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 05:13
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Sincere condolences to the Reds and the Blues and the pilots family and friends.

Daily Mail, shame on you!
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RIP Mate, thoughts are with your Family, Friends and The Team.
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 06:18
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RIP Sir.

Before you all turn your ire on the Daily Mail, consider that another fatal accident involving the Reds was always going to attract intense media interest. The DM's business is selling papers, and no doubt some of those who are tub thumping right now have before praised the same paper for pro RAF government bashing. Also, if the DM had not got the scoop, it would have been another paper anyway.
This is especially so when the possibility remained that it may have been Flt Lt Stewart involved (dead female red = way bigger story) and that it was so soon after Bournemouth (2 stories for the price of one).

Don't get me wrong, I am as disappointed as the next man that his family had so short a period of grace before the inevitable media storm. However, the Reds are not a normal unit, their role is PR so it is inevitable that when a bad news story comes along then are going to be under the spotlight.

My question(s) about the management of information would be aimed at the Red's media ops / PR support / chain of command as (IMHO) it appears they are behind the story and possibly not equipped / trained to manage bad news. And whatever muppet has control of the Red's official website needs a foot in their backside too - nearly 24 hours post event and it's unchanged.

I think what I have written is distasteful, but it's a fact of 21st century life.
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