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Old 30th Aug 2011, 09:04
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Despite being a Scotsman, I have always and I continue to be, totally loyal to Mrs Windsor and Phil the Greek. However, the way I feel nowadays in my advancing years is that the whole system should come to a halt with the demise of our beloved Queen.
QEII has achieved near global respect for the lifelong commitment she has shown towards her "job". Sadly (and despite the fact that Charles and William are pleasant people) neither of them can compete with "mum".

When QEII moves on it will naturally be the end of an era and the chances of any newcomer gaining similar respect are highly improbable - partly because they just don't make them like QEII anymore and partly because society cares less and less for royalty.

So hang in there JW411, it will all be over (in one way or another) soon enough!
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Old 30th Aug 2011, 09:49
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And what do you suggest will replace it?
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Good Value

HMQ will be difficult to replace however the job must go on.

I quote the summary of this article:

The bottom line is that the cost of supporting the British monarchy works out about 62p per person per year, including security travel and accommodation. The financial return on that in tourism, media jobs, charity works, economic ties overseas represents possibly the best in the world.

The Real Jobs of the British Royal Family | Suite101.com
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Old 30th Aug 2011, 11:26
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I think she had a good footing to start from and that helped.

Father (and mother) who stayed around in London during the war / blitz
even though everyone else wanted them out of London.

HMQ also did her bit for the war effort.

And of course HMQ has of course done a superb job since.


Re the cost of the Monarchy, I think many people forget what they bring inand 62p is peanuts in the scheme of things. IMHO money well spent.

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The issue over a "less than competent" monarch succeeding a "competent" monarch is hardly a new one. The discussion has taken place a dozen times throughout history. The only difference is this one is being carried out on computers which has never been done before.
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Old 30th Aug 2011, 12:38
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So hang in there JW411, it will all be over (in one way or another) soon enough!
Total tosh!

Everytime a Royal dies or gets married the British public rally round and form very solid ranks of support. viz. The Queen Mother, Prince & Princess of Cambridge.

(Can't include Princess Diana, she was more of a pop star).

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Prince & Princess of Cambridge.
Duke and Duchess of Cambridge.

Sorry to be pedantic
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Where do the Duke and Duchess of Windsor fit into that theory?
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Old 30th Aug 2011, 14:18
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Exascot: Earl and Countess of Strathearn from where I sit!
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Fair enough Magnus. Not even HRH PP has a title here as far as I am aware.
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Where do the Duke and Duchess of Windsor fit into that theory?
The Great British public had no choice. It was the Establishment and especially the Church of England that forced the abdication of Edward VIII. What the public would have thought about them being king and queen is pure conjecture because it did not happen.

The same system prevented Princess Margaret from marrying Group Captain Townsend.
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Is she Duchess of Windsor? Surely being Duke of Lancaster in her own right would negate that title.
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Sorry cazatou (see below??), but the Monarch, King or Queen, is always the Duke of Lancaster.... cos they won the Wars of the Roses or something.

Some Lancastrian Regiments still make the Loyal Toast: "The Queen, Duke of Lancaster"

Allus a good trivia question (well, was ):

"Who is married to the Duke of Lancaster?"

And of course the appalling Mrs Simpson was the one and only Duchess of Windsor ......... that particular Dukedom is now extinct, and I would guess unlikely to be revived.......

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How on earth did my response to caz get in before his post
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You cannot be a Duke if you are Female.
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And on Prince Philip's marriage to the (then) Princess Elizabeth, he was created a Prince of the UK and Duke of Edinburgh ......

..... not a bad wedding pressie from Pa-in-Law ...
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HRH Prince Philip served in the Royal Navy during WW2 as "Prince Philip of Greece"
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He was also a Prince of Denmark*, but renounced that along with his Greek title just before his marriage. And of course, he also converted from Greek Orthodox to (surprise surprise!) C of E!

* One can note echoes of his Greek and Danish background in his Arms as D of E. Will try and be clever enough to post an image....



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Success! Top left is Denmark, top right is Greece, bottom left is Mountbatten and bottom right is Edinburgh.

Interestingly (sic!), in the grant of those arms in 1949 he is referred to as Sir Philip Mountbatten, so he must have already picked up his KG and/or KCVO by then....

...... really really must get out more......

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The Dukedom of Windsor was bestowed on Edward VIII when he abdicated.


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I stand corrected.
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However, he should have been shot, or at least incarcerated as a traitor!
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Is there any chance we could have a clue as to who "He" is? After all, if you are referring to the then "King Edward", he did serve in the Army during WW1 and was awarded the MC.

PS. I am aware that Prince Albert (King George VI) served in the RN during WW1 and was a Gunnery Officer at the Battle of Jutland.

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