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Another Lyneham - Brize rumour?

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Old 15th Aug 2011, 16:03
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Snoop Another Lyneham - Brize rumour?

stories leaking out saying that Lyneham staff being posted to BZZ are having to vacate the mess at Lyneham even though there is no room at BZZ. As a result they are being put into hotels and personal items into storage to avoid admitting defeat over poor project mgt. Can anyone confirm this or is this a story being put about to discredit the move?

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Old 15th Aug 2011, 16:32
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I know of people who have moved out the mess and are now accomodated in hotels where the rooms are rented in 2 week blocks which means that they can not unpack properly.
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last of the few

What you have heard hits the nail on the head so to speak. Theres no room at the inn.
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They are also permitted to claim the £25 a day subsistence allowance as well. How much do you think that is costing to pay everybody.
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All to save a bit of egg on someones face, utterly disgraceful The occifers driving this project were told time and again from SAC to Sqn Ldrs, that this would happen, but every time it got swept under the carpet as "not a problem"... This whole project has been grossley mis-managed from start to finish, and as a result hundreds, if not thousands of peoples lives have been messed about with in a ridiculous manner. I feel so sorry for all the Lyneham ( & Brize) troops handed this mess and being told to make it work.

So Glad I left weeks before this debacle started
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mismanagement of public funds

I think there is a strong case to bring back the Spanish Inquisition(fluffy cushions ala Monty P not required).

It should be an offence to waste tax payers money, all government departments have managers and they should be held accountable for what is spent, and why. Non of this not me gov, non of this gross waste of cash at the end of the tax year in case they reduce next years budget, if you as a manager authorise (for example) the purchase of new office chairs at £800 a go, you had better have a very good reason why you did not buy the £100 office chairs, let alone why you are buying new chairs yet again(sound familiar?)

In this instance the senior officers/civil servants that swept aside all the valid points re lack of single/married quarters and pushed ahead regardless together with those that have subsequently continued with and authorised this gross waste of public funds should face criminal charges of wasting taxpayers money.

I would hope that after a couple of high profile trials, we would see the cost of running government drop dramatically, as the chinless wonders, sorry management realise it is not their money to waste and the consequences of wasting it are not worth it. Simple yes, effective yes, but would the government ever have the guts to bring out such a law?
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Vernon, sadly the answer is obviously a resounding "NO"
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I have heard a rumour that as a contingency plan ahead of the main move, responsible singlies were moved into sub-standard MQ's but the Station Fire Officer put his foot down as they would have to be re-categorised as single accomodation and would therefore need a fire escape.

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I wonder how long it'll be before someone wakes up to the fact there's vacant accommodation at Fairford and decides to move loads of singlies over there...also at significant cost
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In the past many stations have used suplus MQ as single officers' accommodation - I recall that was how we were accommodated at Bracknell ("Where's that?" I hear you say) on Basic Staff Course.

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as a contingency plan ahead of the main move, responsible singlies were moved into sub-standard MQ's
If the quarters are not good enough for families, why should they be good enough for singlies?
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When i first got to Lyneham in the 90's there were singlies living 3-4 to house in the old married quaters that were deemed to be unfit for families... So i wouldn't be suprised if it happened again!
They took out all the cookers because as a singlie you have no ability to cook your own food or look after yourself. As singlies they still paid their food bill and were expected to pop to the mess for all their meals. That'll be one hell of a cake and a**e party if they do it again. Working at Brize - accomodation Fairford....
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Aaron, in order to put singlies into quarters, the Stn Cdr needs to "misappropriate" them. If he does that, they effectively become mess annexes, and there's all sorts of rules about use of communal bits, removing the white goods, etc. Because they're only interested in using the bedroom as an extension of the mess, they can use quarters which for various reasons wouldn't be useable by families.
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Originally Posted by Doobry Firkin
When i first got to Lyneham in the 90's there were singlies living 3-4 to house in the old married quaters that were deemed to be unfit for families... So i wouldn't be suprised if it happened again!
They took out all the cookers because as a singlie you have no ability to cook your own food or look after yourself. As singlies they still paid their food bill and were expected to pop to the mess for all their meals. That'll be one hell of a cake and a**e party if they do it again. Working at Brize - accomodation Fairford....
The same was done in 1979 at Waddington, after the SWO had a transit block inspection ruined because half of one room was on day shift and were at work, and the other half were sleeping off nights and were still in bed.

The move into MQ's led to one of the FS techs(G** K**e) being charged by the RAFP because he had driven his car to the NAAFI and being blotto had got into the back of the car and fell asleep. He had left the keys on the drivers seat. At the subsequent charge, the RAFP Cpl read out what the accused had said to him "F*** Off you Plastic Pig, go and pick on someone else", as a young lad acting as the escort, it was all I could do to stem the tears of laughter.

Fortunately the boss was a good egg, and IIRC a bollocking was the result of the charge, and next time, throw the keys under the vehicle and don't upset the RAFP.
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What Nonsense

How riculous! How many of these poor chaps are in hotels already? Glad I'm still overseas...!
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Not sure how it Works now but when we were Sleeping off Nights at Brize in the 80"s during an Inspection we used to put a Sign on the Door "Sleeping Off Nights" and then we weren"t Disturbed.
Most of us had Single Rooms by the Late 80"s though opposite Gate 1 not far from the Chinkie.
And we were allowed a Microwave to Heat it up in the Morning for Breakfast.
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I heard on the Cotswolds rumour mill that using a few things at Fairford were "under discussion"
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Originally Posted by MADTASS
Not sure how it Works now but when we were Sleeping off Nights at Brize in the 80"s during an Inspection we used to put a Sign on the Door "Sleeping Off Nights" and then we weren"t Disturbed.
We had the sign on the door, but one of the guardroom staff was accomodated in the room, so the SWO didn't believe it. as he said "You cannot have a room split between day and night shifts" so we were moved.
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"I once knew of" a Cpl in Berlin during the late 70s who was told by the SWO his do not disturb sign didn't exclude him from Op Rocking Horse. Oddly though, following a conversation between the SWO and 26 SU's WO none of them were ever bothered by any exercise of anysort ever again
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Is there anybody left in a position of power in this God forsaken, third world country who can actually organise anything properly?

I doubt it.

Sadly

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